Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers

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Sujet : Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers
De : quadibloc (at) *nospam* gmail.com (quadibloc)
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Date : 19. May 2025, 04:12:12
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On Mon, 19 May 2025 1:56:50 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Mon, 19 May 2025 01:08:11 +0000, quadibloc wrote:
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Yes, but the CDC 6600 and 7600, while powerful computers, were ordinary
computers. They were not vector machines.
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They were pipelined machines. They were orders of magnitude faster than
anything from IBM. They pioneered the very concept of a “supercomputer”.
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There was nothing “ordinary” about that.
Yes, that is a fair comment. Eventually, IBM caught up with the Control
Data 6600 by perfecting pipelining in the IBM 360/91, and then combining
it with cache in the 360/195. From the Pentium II onwards, that's the
way computers are made nowadays.
I didn't mean to belittle the 6600, but simply to note that it lacked
the additional speedup that you get from having a vector machine.
Whereas the STAR-100 and the ASC had the opposite fault: having vectors
was all those machines had going for them, while their scalar portions,
unlike that of the 6600, were very definitely ordinary - and so Amdahl's
Law bit them, as I noted.
John Savard

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 May21:00 * The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers45Thomas Koenig
17 May22:27 `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers44MitchAlsup1
18 May06:46  +* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers33Thomas Koenig
18 May16:23  i`* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers32Michael S
18 May23:02  i +- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1MitchAlsup1
19 May02:08  i `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers30quadibloc
19 May02:56  i  `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers29Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 May04:12  i   +* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers17quadibloc
19 May07:22  i   i+* OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)15Anton Ertl
19 May18:10  i   ii+* Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)8John Levine
19 May18:46  i   iii`* Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)7Anton Ertl
19 May20:09  i   iii +* Re: OoO execution3Ze
20 May01:04  i   iii i`* Re: OoO execution2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 May01:30  i   iii i `- Re: OoO execution1MitchAlsup1
21 May17:52  i   iii `* Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)3George Neuner
21 May18:14  i   iii  +- Re: OoO execution1Stefan Monnier
21 May18:47  i   iii  `- Re: OoO execution1moi
19 May20:08  i   ii+* Re: OoO execution3quadibloc
19 May21:04  i   iii`* Re: OoO execution2Terje Mathisen
19 May21:27  i   iii `- Re: OoO execution1Michael S
19 May21:41  i   ii`* Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)3Michael S
20 May01:01  i   ii +- Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 May22:21  i   ii `- Re: OoO execution (was: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers)1Anton Ertl
19 May08:50  i   i`- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 May14:55  i   `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers11Michael S
20 May00:58  i    `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 May11:45  i     `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers9Michael S
20 May17:59  i      +- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1MitchAlsup1
20 May20:59  i      `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers7John Levine
20 May23:48  i       +- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1MitchAlsup1
21 May09:21  i       `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers5Michael S
21 May09:44  i        +- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 May17:09  i        `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers3John Levine
21 May18:11  i         `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers2Michael S
21 May21:04  i          `- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1John Levine
18 May09:33  `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers10Michael S
18 May23:01   `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers9MitchAlsup1
19 May14:35    `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers8Michael S
19 May17:49     +- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1Al Kossow
19 May19:14     `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers6MitchAlsup1
19 May21:11      +* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers2Michael S
20 May07:36      i`- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1BGB
20 May06:40      `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 May17:58       `* Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers2MitchAlsup1
21 May01:28        `- Re: The Seymour Cray Era of Supercomputers1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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