Sujet : Re: Why I've Dropped In
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.archDate : 14. Jun 2025, 16:53:52
Autres entêtes
Organisation : Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID : <2025Jun14.175352@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
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anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes:
For the 8086 architecture, the effective addresses are reg, reg+const
or reg+reg (with severe restrictions on the registers usable for that;
the 8086 does not have GPRs).
There is also absolute addressing on the 8086, and IA-32 (that
encoding was repurposed for RIP-relative addressing on AMD64 IIRC).
And I completely ignored the segment registers, which were intended to
to provide a virtual-memory/relocation mechanism, but in MS-DOS
programs were used as a cumbersome way to access more than 64KB of
memory. Only in stuff like PC/IX was it used as intended AFAICT.
The tragedy continued with the 80286, which now supported protected
segments with up to 64KB, well suited for the kind of usage in PC/IX
(but apparently that never had a 286 port) and actually used in Xenix,
but which was against the grain for the kind of usage in MS-DOS.
- anton
-- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>
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