Re: Restartable sequences on Linux

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Sujet : Re: Restartable sequences on Linux
De : tkoenig (at) *nospam* netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 24. Jun 2025, 18:33:56
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Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> schrieb:
MitchAlsup1 wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 23:48:34 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
 
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 18:07:43 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
Lack of inventive step is more thorny.
>
Also, you don’t actually have to prove an idea works before getting a
patent on it.
 
No, you just have to explain the idea to the examiner in such a way
that [s]he::
a) thoroughly understands the idea
b) can find no patent disclosing that idea
c) verifies the claims match the evidentiary text
d) finds no essentially identical claims in other patents.
>
Please note that "no patent disclosing the idea" means that all
Knuth-era textbook sw algorithms can now be implemented in VLSI and then
patented.
>
Being documented in a 20-year old uni text book is not enough to stop
the US patent office from allowing your patent.

By law, it should be - disclosed is disclosed, no matter where
or when.  The bar is pretty low - we quipped about the "Acta
Physica Mongolica" a few decades ago, now it may be some obscure
Internet link, or a non-published talk at a conference.  You
just need to document it.

The examiner may not find it, and can then issue the patent in
error.  That was is what the opposition procedure is for (which
the US now also has), plus subsequent steps through the
legal system.


I have personally reviewed 4 different, supposedly valid, patents that
fell into this category,

Only 4? :-)

along with 4 others where the "patent step" was
non-existent, i.e. obviously the only reasonable way for anyone "skilled
in the art" to sole that particular problem.

Lack of inventive step is much more subjective, unfortunately.

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19 Jun 25 * Restartable sequences on Linux58Thomas Koenig
19 Jun 25 +* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 i`- Re: Restartable sequences on Linux1MitchAlsup1
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20 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux35Anton Ertl
20 Jun 25 ii  +* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 ii  i`* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux2MitchAlsup1
24 Jun 25 ii  i `- Re: Restartable sequences on Linux1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux31Thomas Koenig
21 Jun 25 ii   `* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux30Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 ii    `* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux29MitchAlsup1
24 Jun 25 ii     `* Re: Restartable sequences on Linux28Terje Mathisen
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