Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue

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Sujet : Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue
De : HBBroeker (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Hans-Bernhard Bröker)
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Date : 18. Mar 2025, 23:31:04
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Am 18.03.2025 um 21:58 schrieb Grant Edwards:
On 2025-03-18, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
 
msys2 is totally different.  The binaries are all native Windows
binaries, and they all work within the same Windows environment as
[...]

Are the make recipes are run using a normal Unix shell (bash? ash?
bourne?) with exported environment variables as expected when running
'make' on Unix?
Pretty much, yes.  There are some gotchas in handling of path names, and particularly their passing to less-than-accomodating, native Windows compilers etc..  And the quoting of command line arguments can become even dicier than native Windows already is.
There be dragons, but MSYS2 will keep the vast majority of them out of your sight.

The gnu make functions [e.g $(shell <whatever>)] all work as epected?
Yes, as long as you stay reasonable about the selection of things you try to run that way, and keep in mind you may have to massage command line arguments if <whatever> is a native Windows tool.
For reference, MSYS2 is also the foundation of Git Bash for MS Windows, which you might be familiar with already...
The underlying technology of MSYS2 is a fork of the Cygwin project, which is an environment that aims to provide the best emulation of a Unix environment they can, inside MS Windows.  The key difference of the MSYS2 fork lies in a set of tweaks to resolve some of the corner cases more towards the Windows interpretation of things.
So, if your Makefiles are too Unix centric for even MSYS2 to handle, Cygwin can probably still manage.  And it will do it for the small price of many of your relevant files needing to have LF-only line endings.
Here's a rough hierarchy of Unix-like-ness among Make implementations on a PC, assuming your actual compiler tool chain is a native Windows one:
0) your IDE's internal build system --- not even close
1) original DOS or Windows "make" tools
2) fully native ports of GNU make (predating MSYS)
3) GNU Make in MSYS2
4) GNU Make in Cygwin
5) WSL2 --- the full monty
I'll also second an earlier suggestion: for newcomers with little or no present skills in Makefile writing, CMake or Meson can be a much smoother entry into this world.  Also, if you're going this route, I suggest to consider skipping Make and using Ninja instead.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Mar 25 * 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue55pozz
11 Mar 25 `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue54David Brown
11 Mar 25  +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue10pozz
12 Mar 25  i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue9David Brown
12 Mar 25  i `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue8pozz
12 Mar 25  i  `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue7David Brown
12 Mar 25  i   `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue6pozz
12 Mar 25  i    `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue5David Brown
13 Mar 25  i     `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue4pozz
13 Mar 25  i      `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue3David Brown
14 Mar 25  i       `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2pozz
14 Mar 25  i        `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
12 Mar 25  +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue4pozz
12 Mar 25  i+- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
14 Mar 25  i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Waldek Hebisch
14 Mar 25  i `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1pozz
15 Mar 25  `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue39Michael Schwingen
15 Mar 25   +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Grant Edwards
16 Mar 25   i`- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1Michael Schwingen
18 Mar 25   `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue36pozz
18 Mar 25    +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue34David Brown
18 Mar 25    i+* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue7pozz
18 Mar 25    ii`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue6David Brown
21 Mar 25    ii `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue5Michael Schwingen
21 Mar 25    ii  +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue3David Brown
21 Mar 25    ii  i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Michael Schwingen
22 Mar 25    ii  i `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
21 Mar 25    ii  `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1Waldek Hebisch
18 Mar 25    i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue26Michael Schwingen
18 Mar 25    i `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue25David Brown
18 Mar 25    i  +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue15Grant Edwards
18 Mar 25    i  i+* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue13Hans-Bernhard Bröker
19 Mar 25    i  ii+* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue10David Brown
19 Mar 25    i  iii`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue9Grant Edwards
19 Mar 25    i  iii `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue8David Brown
19 Mar 25    i  iii  +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue4Grant Edwards
19 Mar 25    i  iii  i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue3David Brown
21 Mar 25    i  iii  i `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Michael Schwingen
21 Mar 25    i  iii  i  `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1Grant Edwards
19 Mar 25    i  iii  `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue3Waldek Hebisch
20 Mar 25    i  iii   `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2David Brown
21 Mar 25    i  iii    `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1pozz
21 Mar 25    i  ii`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Michael Schwingen
21 Mar 25    i  ii `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1Hans-Bernhard Bröker
19 Mar 25    i  i`- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
21 Mar 25    i  `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue9Waldek Hebisch
21 Mar 25    i   `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue8David Brown
21 Mar 25    i    +- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1pozz
22 Mar 25    i    +* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue4Hans-Bernhard Bröker
22 Mar 25    i    i`* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue3David Brown
22 Mar 25    i    i `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Michael Schwingen
22 Mar 25    i    i  `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
22 Mar 25    i    `* Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue2Waldek Hebisch
22 Mar 25    i     `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1David Brown
18 Mar 25    `- Re: 32 bits time_t and Y2038 issue1Michael Schwingen

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