Re: systemd controversy

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Sujet : Re: systemd controversy
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.lang.ada
Date : 20. Mar 2024, 04:17:48
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:58:30 -0000 (UTC), Kevin Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
Scripts need an interpreter. Being Turing-complete, in general
information cannot be extracted from them except by running them. Unit
files have a fixed vocabulary of keyword entries, which can be easily
enumerated, looked up, whatever. That’s what’s meant by “declarative”.
 
Sorry but that is nonsense. The code behind those unit files is a lot of
disparate C.

That’s purely down to how you choose to implement it--it has nothing to do
with the format--and meaning--of those unit files themselves. Nobody can
stop you from writing bad code to parse a good format.

In my experience init scripts are made entirely of simple commands that
are documented and editable, piece by piece.

sysvinit scripts are full of boilerplate sections that users regularly
copy and paste from one to the next, without thinking too much about what
they do.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Mar 24 * SystemD controversy21Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
13 Mar 24 +* Re: SystemD controversy19magardner2010
13 Mar 24 i+* Re: SystemD controversy2Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
13 Mar 24 ii`- Re: SystemD controversy1Keith Thompson
13 Mar 24 i`* Re: systemd controversy16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 24 i `* Re: systemd controversy15streaksu
18 Mar 24 i  `* Re: systemd controversy14Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Mar 24 i   +* Re: systemd controversy3streaksu
19 Mar 24 i   i`* Re: systemd controversy2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Mar 24 i   i `- Re: systemd controversy1streaksu
19 Mar 24 i   +* Re: systemd controversy9Kevin Chadwick
20 Mar 24 i   i`* Re: systemd controversy8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Mar 24 i   i `* Re: systemd controversy7Kevin Chadwick
20 Mar 24 i   i  `* Re: systemd controversy6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Mar 24 i   i   `* Re: systemd controversy5Kevin Chadwick
21 Mar 24 i   i    `* Re: systemd controversy4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Mar 24 i   i     +- Re: systemd controversy1Alexis
21 Mar 24 i   i     `* Re: systemd controversy2Kevin Chadwick
21 Mar 24 i   i      `- Re: systemd controversy1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Mar 24 i   `- Re: systemd controversy1Alexis
13 Mar 24 `- Re: SystemD controversy1Pascal Obry

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