Re: Reduction expressions

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Sujet : Re: Reduction expressions
De : simon (at) *nospam* pushface.org (Simon Wright)
Groupes : comp.lang.ada
Date : 21. Aug 2024, 09:47:49
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 22:23:27 +0100, Simon Wright wrote:
>
"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
 
Accum_Subtype (we changed the name since it is a subtype, not a type;
 
Amazing how a person (I) can have used Ada for ~40 years and still be
hard put to it to describe the difference, at least in a case like
this one, where the ARG members clearly see meanings that leave me
lukewarm if not cold. Maybe "the heart of twilight"?
>
I thought the difference was obvious. “subtype” is the C equivalent of
“typedef”, just giving a new name to an existing type. So
>
    subtype A is B;
>
(where A and B are simple identifiers) is valid, whereas
>
    type A is B;
>
is not: a “type” declaration always creates a new type: you have to
write at least
>
    type A is new B;
>
and now you have two types with different names that are structurally
the same, but not compatible.

Yes, I've understood that for a long time but ... ARM22 4.5.10(8,9)[1]
say

(8) The expected type for a reduction_attribute_reference shall be a
    single nonlimited type.

(9) In the remainder of this subclause, we will refer to nonlimited
    subtypes Value_Type and Accum_Type of a
    reduction_attribute_reference. ...

and in AI 22-0011-1 [2] starting at 22-Oct-2021 5:25 PM,

* SB: raises a series of observations,
* STT: "... You really need to think of Accum_Type as a particular
  *subtype*"
* SB: "Ok, I was confused - Accum_Type is a subtype, not a type. So
  a lot of my message was noise."

If SB can be confused, so can I!

[1] http://www.ada-auth.org/standards/22rm/html/RM-4-5-10.html#p8
[2] http://www.ada-auth.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ai22s/ai22-0011-1.txt?rev=1.2

Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Aug 24 * Reduction expressions8Simon Wright
20 Aug 24 `* Re: Reduction expressions7Randy Brukardt
20 Aug 24  `* Re: Reduction expressions6Simon Wright
21 Aug 24   `* Re: Reduction expressions5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Aug 24    +* Re: Reduction expressions2Keith Thompson
21 Aug 24    i`- Re: Reduction expressions1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Aug 24    `* Re: Reduction expressions2Simon Wright
24 Aug 24     `- Re: Reduction expressions1Randy Brukardt

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