Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant

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Sujet : Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.lang.ada
Date : 06. Oct 2024, 22:25:38
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On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:53:25 +0200, DrPi wrote:

Le 06/10/2024 à 01:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
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On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:24:39 +0200, DrPi wrote:
 
You should try QNX.
 
Was that used in any high-performance situation?
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Sure. QNX is designed for hard real time.

Not the same thing. “Hard real time” does not imply “high performance”.
Ask the folks working on the very subject of this thread.

Is the QNX “microkernel” similar in style to the old Amiga “microkernel”?
That is, instead of copying message buffers around, it just passed around
pointers to those message buffers? That would give you speed, but
sacrifice much of the robustness that a microkernel is supposed to offer.

Linux has supported loadable modules for maybe 30 years now.
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Yes, they exist but they are some sort of exception.

No they are not. They typically make up the majority of the kernel.
Looking at my current kernel, the base kernel file is less than 10MB in
size, whereas the directory containing loadable modules for that kernel is
about 10× that.

Of course, this is your choice; some prefer to build all the options they
need into a single monolithic image, for faster loading. Linux is all
about having the choice.

And when time comes to debugging a kernel driver...

Hurd should have found that easy to do, if microkernels really make things
easy to do. But it didn’t.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Oct 24 * Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant32Fernando Oleo / Irvise
4 Oct 24 `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Oct 24  +- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Luke A. Guest
4 Oct 24  +* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant2Fernando Oleo / Irvise
4 Oct 24  i`- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Oct 24  `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant27Kevin Chadwick
4 Oct 24   `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant26Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Oct 24    +* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant5Luke A. Guest
5 Oct 24    i+- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Paul Rubin
5 Oct 24    i`* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Oct 24    i `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant2Luke A. Guest
6 Oct 24    i  `- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Oct 24    `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant20DrPi
5 Oct 24     +- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Luke A. Guest
6 Oct 24     `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Oct 24      `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant17DrPi
6 Oct 24       +* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant3DrPi
6 Oct 24       i`* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Oct 24       i `- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Nioclásán Caileán de Ghlostéir
6 Oct 24       +* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant12Luke A. Guest
6 Oct 24       i`* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Oct 24       i `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant10Luke A. Guest
7 Oct 24       i  `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Oct 24       i   +* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant5Luke A. Guest
7 Oct 24       i   i+- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Luke A. Guest
7 Oct 24       i   i`* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Oct 24       i   i `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant2Luke A. Guest
12 Oct 24       i   i  `- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Oct 24       i   `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant3Luke A. Guest
7 Oct 24       i    `* Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant2Chris Townley
7 Oct 24       i     `- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Luke A. Guest
6 Oct 24       `- Re: Ironclad, the hard-Real Time capable POSIX-like kernel written in SPARK/Ada, received an nlnet grant1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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