Re: Operator precedence

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Sujet : Re: Operator precedence
De : mail (at) *nospam* axel-reichert.de (Axel Reichert)
Groupes : comp.lang.awk
Date : 25. May 2024, 12:34:25
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Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> writes:

Now in the C grammar, we have multiplication also occuping a
precedence rung between unary plus/minus and additive expressions.
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Thus -A*B means (-A)*B, whereas X - A*B means X-(A*B).
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In this case it doesn't matter because the unary minus is
a kind of product. -A can be regarded as a shorthand for (-1)*A.
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More importantly the identity (-A)*B = -(A*B) holds.
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This creates a problem if we naively wedge exponentiation into
the grammar, by sticking it into a precedence level above
multiplication, but below unary.
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The identity does not hold in exponentiation: (-A)**B
is not -(A**B).

Very nice explanation, many thanks. I will likely pass it to a friend
(geodesist), who had a heated argument with the math teacher of her son
about whether

    2
  -3

is -9 or +9. I think the mathematical conventions are clear (and
probably established for centuries), but the teacher might be confused
and think Excel is the reference, see

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Unary_minus_sign

It would be interesting to learn about the motivation for spreadsheets
and "bc" to deviate from the mathematical convention.

Best regards

Axel

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 May 24 * Operator precedence27Janis Papanagnou
23 May 24 `* Re: Operator precedence26Kaz Kylheku
23 May 24  `* Re: Operator precedence25Axel Reichert
24 May 24   +* Re: Operator precedence21Janis Papanagnou
24 May 24   i+* Re: Operator precedence17Janis Papanagnou
24 May 24   ii`* Re: Operator precedence16Kaz Kylheku
25 May 24   ii +* Re: Operator precedence13Axel Reichert
25 May 24   ii i`* Re: Operator precedence12Janis Papanagnou
26 May 24   ii i `* Re: Operator precedence11Janis Papanagnou
26 May 24   ii i  +* Re: Operator precedence4Kaz Kylheku
30 May 24   ii i  i`* Re: Operator precedence3Janis Papanagnou
30 May 24   ii i  i `* Re: Operator precedence2Axel Reichert
31 May 24   ii i  i  `- Re: Operator precedence1Janis Papanagnou
26 May 24   ii i  +* Re: Operator precedence4Christian Weisgerber
26 May 24   ii i  i+* Re: Operator precedence2Kaz Kylheku
30 May 24   ii i  ii`- Re: Operator precedence1Janis Papanagnou
30 May 24   ii i  i`- Re: Operator precedence1Janis Papanagnou
30 May 24   ii i  `* Re: Operator precedence2Axel Reichert
31 May 24   ii i   `- Re: Operator precedence1Janis Papanagnou
25 May 24   ii `* Re: Operator precedence2Janis Papanagnou
26 May 24   ii  `- Re: Operator precedence1Kaz Kylheku
30 May 24   i`* Re: Operator precedence3Axel Reichert
31 May 24   i `* Re: Operator precedence2Janis Papanagnou
1 Jun 24   i  `- Re: Operator precedence1Axel Reichert
24 May 24   `* Re: Operator precedence3Kaz Kylheku
25 May 24    `* Re: Operator precedence2Axel Reichert
26 May 24     `- Re: Operator precedence1Kaz Kylheku

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