Re: We have a new standard!

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Sujet : Re: We have a new standard!
De : david.brown (at) *nospam* hesbynett.no (David Brown)
Groupes : comp.lang.c++
Date : 29. Dec 2024, 14:51:17
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On 29/12/2024 10:32, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 16:20:57 +0100
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> gabbled:
On 28/12/2024 11:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by C++ 2020
it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no one outside
of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the C++ learning
curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or don't
even start - for languages such as Python.
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Ah, yes - the classic well-reasoned argument.  Why would one ever want to /look/ at the new standard before condemning it?
 Ah yes, the same logic that has produced cars with ever more, harder to use
complexity that no one wants.
No, not remotely.  But then, you knew that before making what you mistakenly thought was a smart or witty reply.
If you don't like the complexity of newer C++ standards, that's fine. If you don't think it is a good direction for the language, fair enough.   You can choose a different language, or stick to an older standard, or make your own language, or get involved in the C++ standardisation processes and try to influence them.
You can have an informed opinion about C++, and agree or disagree with the opinions of the committee members.
But what you don't get to do - or at least, don't get to do if you want to be viewed seriously - is spout an /uninformed/ opinion.  That's no more than mindless prejudice, and of no interest to anyone.
So go away, and read about C++23.  Learn what is new or changed.  /Then/ you can come back and tell us what you don't like about it - or perhaps you'll find some things that you /do/ like about it.  Either way, you'll be at least vaguely qualified to express an opinion on it.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B23>

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