Re: We have a new standard!

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Sujet : Re: We have a new standard!
De : Muttley (at) *nospam* dastardlyhq.com
Groupes : comp.lang.c++
Date : 29. Dec 2024, 17:15:25
Autres entêtes
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Message-ID : <vkrsit$12eo6$1@dont-email.me>
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 08:50:16 -0500
Sam <sam@email-scan.com> gabbled:
Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:05:37 -0500
Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> gabbled:
I'm still on C++98 and C++03. Everything beyond that is just bloat to me.
;-)
>
I would say that C++ 11 did improve things particularly wrt the STL and
possibly 2014 was the high point. Beyond that its been as you say pointless
bloat that achieves nothing.
>
I would say that C++17 was also an incremental improvement.
I'll give you shared_mutex that came with 17, but really that should have
been in from 2011 when threading was added. Not having 3 level thread locking from the get go was ridiculous. But the rest of 17 ... meh.

But C++20 jumped the shark, when the standardization process was hijacked by  Microsoft in order to cram coroutines into the language, which noone wanted,  cared, or asked for, simply because the standard threading model in Windows  blows chunks, performance wise, and Microsoft desperately needed a  multithreading model that did not suck.
I looked at co-routines and wondered wtf the author(s) was smoking. How its
supposed to be simpler than simply using a local state machine beats the fsck out of me.

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