Re: We have a new standard!

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 16:20:57 +0100
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> gabbled:

On 28/12/2024 11:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:

Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by C++ 2020
it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no one outside
of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the C++ learning
curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or don't
even start - for languages such as Python.
 

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Ah, yes - the classic well-reasoned argument.  Why would one ever want to /look/ at the new standard before condemning it?

Ah yes, the same logic that has produced cars with ever more, harder to use
complexity that no one wants.

It's inevitable that most people won't have need of most of the new

For most read 99.9%.

features - C++ is a big language, and has a big standard library, and few people use more than a fraction of it.  But all the new features will be of some use to some people.  (It's a lot like Python in that aspect.)

For some read 0.01%. Is it worth it? No.
Also you seem to have little understanding of human nature. Make the learning
curve close to vertical for a language and no one will bother with it. I've worked with 20 something devs in the last few years. Not ONE of them bothered to learn C++, its all Python, Java (usually learnt at uni - even uni's don't
bother with C++ now) or Web dev. Ask yourself why. At this rate when people such as myself retire in the 2030s C++ will become legacy like Cobol and no
amount of bolting on ever more niche features will save it.