Re: We have a new standard!

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:05:37 -0500
Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> gabbled:

On 12/28/24 05:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:

On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:51:10 -0500
Sam <sam@email-scan.com> gabbled:

Stefan Ram writes:
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  According to one web site, C++23 (ISO/IEC 14882:2024) was released
  October 19, 2024.
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  (Sorry if it was mentioned here then, and I just did not notice!)

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Hip-hip-hooray! Finally, finally they addressed the long-standing criticism of C++ being too trivial and too simple, and a kids' language. At last, there's some meat on those bones. Watch out, Java! There's a new boss in town. Real programming languages' specifications are measured in pounds, and not a page count.

 Watch out Java? Watch out Perl more like! The title of most write only
language could soon change!
 Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by C++ 2020
it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no one outside
of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the C++ learning
curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or don't
even start - for languages such as Python.
 

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I'm still on C++98 and C++03. Everything beyond that is just bloat to me. ;-)

I would say that C++ 11 did improve things particularly wrt the STL and
possibly 2014 was the high point. Beyond that its been as you say pointless
bloat that achieves nothing.