Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside

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Sujet : Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside
De : Bonita.Montero (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Bonita Montero)
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Date : 24. Apr 2025, 22:11:57
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Am 24.04.2025 um 21:59 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
On 4/24/2025 10:02 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
Am 23.04.2025 um 21:08 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>
For trying to scale mutexes? Look up clever mutex solutions vs, say, RCU. They bite the dust.
>
A mutex and a condvar is for producer-consumer-relationships;
there's no way to handle that with RCU.
 Are you 100% sure about that?
 
And I've written a shared_obj<>-class, which is similar to shared_ptr<>
and a thsared_obj<>, which is similar to an atomic<shared_ptr<>>. The
latter uses a mutex but the pointer to the actual object is an atomic
pointer. Before doing any locking while assigning a tshared_obj<> to
a shared_obj<> I simply compare the pointer in the shared_obj<> with
the pointer in the thared_obj<>, where the latter is loaded lazyly
with relaxed_memory_order. As with RCU-like patterns the central
tshared_obj<> is rarely updated but frequently compared in the men-
tioned way. Only when the compare fails and the central tshared_obj<>
has become poiting to a different object the mutex is locked. The most
likely case that both pointers are equal takes only 1,5 nanoseconds on
my computer; no need for tricks like URCU and I guess my solution is
more efficient since the update is just several instructions and all
participating cachelines stay in shared mode accross all cores to
there's almost no interconnect-traffic.
>
 Are you delusional? Well, you did say "I guess". So, perhaps not.
1.5ns are only a few instruction; I guess that makes nearly no or
absolutely no difference against a URCU-solution.

Are you familiar with differential counting? No mutex involved. Btw, if you think that URCU needs to be reference counted in any way, you are wrong. I have no time right now to get into it, but shit happens.
 Sigh.

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12 Apr 25 * signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside51Bonita Montero
12 Apr 25 `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside50Chris M. Thomasson
13 Apr 25  `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside49Bonita Montero
13 Apr 25   `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside48Chris M. Thomasson
13 Apr 25    `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside47Bonita Montero
13 Apr 25     `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside46Chris M. Thomasson
15 Apr 25      `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside45Bonita Montero
15 Apr 25       `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside44Chris M. Thomasson
16 Apr 25        `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside43Bonita Montero
16 Apr 25         `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside42Chris M. Thomasson
17 Apr 25          `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside41Bonita Montero
17 Apr 25           `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside40Chris M. Thomasson
17 Apr 25            `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside39Bonita Montero
17 Apr 25             `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside38Chris M. Thomasson
18 Apr 25              `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside37Bonita Montero
18 Apr 25               `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside36Chris M. Thomasson
18 Apr 25                `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside35Bonita Montero
19 Apr 25                 +* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside9Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 i`* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside8Bonita Montero
19 Apr 25                 i `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside7Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 i  +- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 i  `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside5Bonita Montero
19 Apr 25                 i   `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside4Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 i    +- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 i    `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside2Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                 i     `- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Apr 25                 `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside25Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                  +- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                  +* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside6Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                  i`* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside5Chris M. Thomasson
20 Apr 25                  i `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside4Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                  i  `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside3Chris M. Thomasson
20 Apr 25                  i   `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside2Bonita Montero
20 Apr 25                  i    `- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Apr 25                  `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside17Chris M. Thomasson
21 Apr 25                   `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside16Bonita Montero
22 Apr 25                    `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside15Chris M. Thomasson
22 Apr 25                     `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside14Bonita Montero
22 Apr 25                      `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside13Chris M. Thomasson
23 Apr 25                       +* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside7Bonita Montero
23 Apr 25                       i`* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside6Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                       i +* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside2Bonita Montero
24 Apr 25                       i i`- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                       i `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside3Bonita Montero
24 Apr 25                       i  `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside2Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                       i   `- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Bonita Montero
23 Apr 25                       `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside5Bonita Montero
24 Apr 25                        `* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside4Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                         +* Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside2Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                         i`- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 25                         `- Re: signalling a condvar from inside vs. signalling a condvar von outside1Bonita Montero

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