Re: "Trip report: June 2025 ISO C++ standards meeting (Sofia,

On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 16:48:39 +0300
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> gabbled:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 08:47:23 -0000 (UTC)
Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:37:39 -0500
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> gabbled:

"Trip report: June 2025 ISO C++ standards meeting (Sofia, Bulgaria)"
by Herb Sutter
 

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https://herbsutter.com/2025/06/21/trip-report-june-2025-iso-c-standards-meetin

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"Today marks a turning point in C++: A few minutes ago, the C++
committee voted the first seven (7) papers for compile-time
reflection  

 
What for? What exactly does it bring to the table except more
complexity in an already overcomplex language?
 

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Ability to serialize structures (for example, to JASON or XML) in generic way.

I read something about that but it made no sense to me. Seemed to be a case
complex constexpr functions to do it with the fields and values hard coded
(obviously or no constexpr), but like most constexpressions IME, you can just
work out the result beforehand and hard code *that* instead.

Still, if the standards committee want to make the C++ learning curve for
beginners even steeper then they're going to succeed beyond their wildest
dreams. No wonder a lot of CS courses ditched C++ (and to be fair Java) a long
time a go and focused on Python.

From people who really have no life.
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Or may be, just may be, they found that proposals are really good?

And? Its no difference to accountants going to a tax conference and giving
the latest deductable percentage reforms a standing ovation. It just says that
the people doing it really have a shrunken inner life.