Re: Python recompile

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Sujet : Re: Python recompile
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 11. Mar 2025, 21:37:14
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:24:15 +0000, bart wrote:

On 11/03/2025 01:33, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
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You apparently do not get fact that people want tools to automate
various routine tasks.
 
What routine task is this? I'm talking exclusively about turning a bunch
of source files in some language (here it is C) into an executable
binary.

Interesting that you don’t see an app build as a “routine task”.

Think of how often, while developing a program in (at least partly) a
compiled a language, you have to go through

    edit → build → run → crash

ad nauseam.

This is why we have makefiles, because usually the whole source does not
need to be recompiled each time, only the parts that have changed since
the last run.

However, what I'm arguing about is that this simple task has become
unnecessarily elaborate on OSes like Linux, by introducing makefiles,
OS-specific scripts, and OS-specific utilities.

And yet all that automation makes it quite easy to build quite complex
apps on Linux. You were the one who had trouble on Windows.

If scripts are going to be used, then use them at the developer site
only, and make the script generate the streamlined set of files for the
particular platform of interest.

Funny, that’s how Autotools works (generating the configure script from
the much more human-readable configure.ac source), and yet you were
complaining about what an unreadable blob it produced.

It should not rely on anything that is not native to the target
platform.

Unfortunately that rules out developing for Windows completely, since
there is essentially nothing development-related that is native to
Windows. Everything has to be added on.

To build open source projects, I'm happy to use an existing C compiler.
I'm NOT happy about bending over backwards to use CYGWIN, MSYS2 or WSL
because the developers insist on forcing their Linux dependencies down
my throat.

Beggars can’t be choosers. As long as you don’t have the skills or
patience to actually contribute to such development, you have to accept
what you get.

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