Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })

On 15/04/2025 17:22, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

On 15.04.2025 16:30, bart wrote:

On 15/04/2025 14:33, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2025-04-15, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

    * Not having to write the variable 3 times (with C not always being
      able to detect if they didn't match)

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This is indeed a source of errors in C nested loops.

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According to Janis Papanagnou, it is 100% the programmer's fault. There
is nothing wrong with the language!

 No, there is nothing wrong with the language if you make such errors.
 The programmer selects (or constructs) the algorithm, the language has
clear semantics for such simple loop constructs without any irregular
or hidden semantics, and the programmer's task is to know the elements
of the language and transfer the algorithm to a correct coding. - It's
self-delusion if you try to blame the language for the mistakes you do.

Suppose you have two ways A and B to implement a feature in a language.
You find that those using A tend to make twice as many mistakes in that feature, and have more undetectable bugs, as those who use B.
Your job is to choose which of A and B to keep.
Would your decision completely ignore such findings?