Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt?

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Sujet : Re: Can D correctly simulated by H reach its own line 06 and halt?
De : sam (at) *nospam* email-scan.com (Sam)
Groupes : comp.lang.c comp.lang.c++
Date : 22. May 2024, 04:10:27
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olcott writes:

On 5/21/2024 8:31 PM, Sam wrote:
olcott writes:
>
I learned C when K & R was the standard.
I met Bjarne Stroustrup are our local university when he
was promoting his new language. I have been a professional
programmer since 1984, and a professional C++ software
engineer since Y2K.
>
And I have been Lord High Posterchild Of The Known Universe, since birth. So  what?
Undeniable Truth Of Life #1

I know that my C function template will not execute.
>
Not only that, there is no such thing as "C function template" in the first  place. Templates are a C++ thing. There are not templates in C.
>
I can't provide the details of this because this template refers to
an infinite set of H/D pairs where H is only required to correctly
simulate N steps of D using an x86 emulator. H must be a pure function.
>
Unfortunately, all our psychics are out to lunch and there's noone in the  office who knows how to operate the magical mind ray-beam machine that's  needed in order to extract all the relevant details from your head. You'll  need to patiently wait until the lunch break is over.
>
We apologize for the inconvenience.
Undeniable Truth Of Life #2

typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
01       int D(ptr p)
02       {
03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
04         if (Halt_Status)
05           HERE: goto HERE;
06         return Halt_Status;
07       }
08
09       int main()
10       {
11         H(D,D);
12         return 0;
13       }
More low-quality BASIC code.

It is essentially trivial to see that D correctly simulated by H
cannot possibly reach its own final state at line 06 because
D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation.
>
This provides the basis for simulating termination analyzer H to
correctly determine that the halting problem's counter-example
input D cannot possibly halt.
Negative. It is trivial to see that the above code does not execute, and, as  such, any claims about what it does or does not do are void, by default.

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