Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })

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Sujet : Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })
De : janis_papanagnou+ng (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 15. Apr 2025, 17:22:27
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On 15.04.2025 16:30, bart wrote:
On 15/04/2025 14:33, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2025-04-15, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
   * Not having to write the variable 3 times (with C not always being
     able to detect if they didn't match)
>
This is indeed a source of errors in C nested loops.
 
According to Janis Papanagnou, it is 100% the programmer's fault. There
is nothing wrong with the language!

No, there is nothing wrong with the language if you make such errors.

The programmer selects (or constructs) the algorithm, the language has
clear semantics for such simple loop constructs without any irregular
or hidden semantics, and the programmer's task is to know the elements
of the language and transfer the algorithm to a correct coding. - It's
self-delusion if you try to blame the language for the mistakes you do.

Janis


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4 Apr 25 * do { quit; } else { }625Thiago Adams
4 Apr 25 +* Re: do { quit; } else { }2bart
4 Apr 25 i`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Thiago Adams
4 Apr 25 +* Re: do { quit; } else { }11Kaz Kylheku
4 Apr 25 i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Thiago Adams
4 Apr 25 ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }2Kaz Kylheku
4 Apr 25 ii `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Chris M. Thomasson
4 Apr 25 i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }4Kaz Kylheku
4 Apr 25 ii+* Re: do { quit; } else { }2Thiago Adams
4 Apr 25 iii`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Thiago Adams
8 Apr 25 ii`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1candycanearter07
5 Apr 25 i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Janis Papanagnou
5 Apr 25 i +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Janis Papanagnou
6 Apr 25 i `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Michael S
4 Apr 25 +* Re: do { quit; } else { }608Tim Rentsch
4 Apr 25 i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }607Thiago Adams
6 Apr 25 i +* Re: do { quit; } else { }600Tim Rentsch
6 Apr 25 i i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }550Michael S
6 Apr 25 i ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }549Tim Rentsch
6 Apr 25 i ii `* Re: do { quit; } else { }548Michael S
7 Apr 25 i ii  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }547Tim Rentsch
7 Apr 25 i ii   `* Re: do { quit; } else { }546Michael S
7 Apr 25 i ii    +* Re: do { quit; } else { }542bart
8 Apr 25 i ii    i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }541David Brown
8 Apr 25 i ii    i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }540bart
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  +* Re: do { quit; } else { }535David Brown
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }534bart
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  i +* Re: do { quit; } else { }78Tim Rentsch
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }77bart
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i +* Re: do { quit; } else { }74Tim Rentsch
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }73bart
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }72Tim Rentsch
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }71bart
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i   +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i   +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i   `* Re: do { quit; } else { }68Tim Rentsch
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    +* Re: do { quit; } else { }63bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }61Kaz Kylheku
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii+* Re: do { quit; } else { }2Michael S
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    iii`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Kaz Kylheku
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }58bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii +* Re: do { quit; } else { }43Keith Thompson
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }39bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii+* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]16bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iii+* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]14Janis Papanagnou
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii`* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]13bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii +- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii +- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1Kaz Kylheku
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii `* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]10David Brown
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii  `* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]9bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   +* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]5Michael S
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   i`* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]4bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   i `* Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]3Michael S
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   i  +- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1Janis Papanagnou
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   i  `- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   +- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1David Brown
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   +- Re: Endless complaints1Tim Rentsch
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iiii   `- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1Keith Thompson
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii iii`- Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }]1Keith Thompson
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }22Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii `* Re: do { quit; } else { }21bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }20Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii   `* Re: do { quit; } else { }19Michael S
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1David Brown
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    +* Re: do { quit; } else { }16Kaz Kylheku
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }2bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    ii`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Keith Thompson
13 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }13Michael S
12 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }12Tim Rentsch
12 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }11David Brown
12 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i   `* Re: do { quit; } else { }10Keith Thompson
13 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i    `* Re: do { quit; } else { }9David Brown
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i     `* Re: do { quit; } else { }8James Kuyper
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      +* Re: do { quit; } else { }6Keith Thompson
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }4James Kuyper
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }3David Brown
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      ii +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Kaz Kylheku
15 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      ii `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1James Kuyper
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      i`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1David Brown
14 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    i      `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Tim Rentsch
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii ii    `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Keith Thompson
6 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Tim Rentsch
6 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }2Keith Thompson
6 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii i  `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Tim Rentsch
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii `* Re: do { quit; } else { }14Kaz Kylheku
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  +* Re: do { quit; } else { }11bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }2Kaz Kylheku
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  ii`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1bart
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  i+* Re: do { quit; } else { }6Tim Rentsch
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  ii`* Re: do { quit; } else { }5Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  ii `* Re: do { quit; } else { }4Tim Rentsch
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  ii  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  ii   +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1bart
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11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  i`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Keith Thompson
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1bart
10 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    ii  `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Kaz Kylheku
11 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i i    i`- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Tim Rentsch
9 May 25 i ii    i  i i i    `* Re: do { quit; } else { }4Bonita Montero
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9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Richard Damon
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i i `- Re: do { quit; } else { }1David Brown
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }455David Brown
8 Apr 25 i ii    i  +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Tim Rentsch
9 Apr 25 i ii    i  `* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Ike Naar
8 Apr 25 i ii    `* Re: do { quit; } else { }3Tim Rentsch
6 Apr 25 i i`* Re: do { quit; } else { }49Michael S
7 May 25 i `* Re: do { quit; } else { }6Wuns Haerst
6 Apr 25 +- Re: do { quit; } else { }1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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