Re: Threads across programming languages

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Sujet : Re: Threads across programming languages
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : comp.lang.c++ comp.lang.c
Date : 04. May 2024, 18:03:31
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On 05/03/2024 09:34 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 5/3/2024 9:30 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 4/29/2024 9:44 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
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Have you ever read the following paper? Pretty nice!
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/tr-2001-39.pdf
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If not, read all...
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There is a way to do a little sort, gain a cohort and execute it. For
instance all reads, writes, connections, accepts are all organized in a
cohort.
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Instead of processing a read, write, read, read, write. Say:
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read, read, read, write, write
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To get better locality. I remember some functions on winnt. AcceptEx,
ConnectEx, TransmitFile, TransmitPackets, ect... ;^)
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The main thing to use to wait on io completions:
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/getqueuedcompletionstatusex-func
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/mswsock/nf-mswsock-acceptex
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/mswsock/nc-mswsock-lpfn_connectex
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/mswsock/nf-mswsock-transmitfile
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/mswsock/nc-mswsock-lpfn_transmitpackets
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I used to use them all the time back in the day.
How about Hillis' "Connection Machine" and xectors.
"Affinity" is the most usual sort of notion of
locality and reference and that things that are
local are simpler to address and keep coherent,
having smaller address offsets.
SIMD or single-instruction-multiple-data and
"clubbing cohorts" of routines that have a
common program counter in their next instruction,
seems a pretty simple idea, what with what enables
this is usually "content associative memory",
that routes things into buckets rather naturally.
(In silico.)
It's like "we'll just use content-associative-memory
and get a huge speed-up" and it's like "oh, what
if it's otherwise occupied". It's like "oh we'll
just add burst-buffers everywhere between units of
the traces on our dies to modulate rate control"
and it's like "there's no room on the layout".
Then it's like "the chips made this and we wrote
a scheduler and now it's according to us" and
it's like "yeah, in a sense, it's system programming".
Which of course is quite "old hat" and all has "prior art".

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