Re: transpiling to low level C

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Sujet : Re: transpiling to low level C
De : tr.17687 (at) *nospam* z991.linuxsc.com (Tim Rentsch)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 04. Jan 2025, 21:12:15
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antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:

Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>
The comments I made here, in two responses to postings of yours,
were not statements of opinion but statements of fact.
>
They are opinions _about facts_, or if you prefer, opinion
about truth value of some statements.
>
 They are
no more statements of opinion than a statement about whether the
Riemann Hypothesis is true is a statement of opinion.  Someone
might wonder whether an assertion "The Riemann Hypothesis is
true" is true or false, but it is still a matter of fact, not a
matter of opinion.
>
It is reasobable to assume that you do not know if Riemann Hypothesis
is true or false.  So if you say "Riemann Hypothesis is true",
this is just your opinion.  I am not a native English speaker
but I believed that "statements of opinion" means just that:
person does not know the truth, but makes a statement.

A statement of opinion is a statement concerning a subjective
question, such as "Do cats make better pets than dogs?"  A
statement of opinion isn't ever right or wrong or true or false,
it merely expresses an individual point of view.  Most statements
that have a word like "should" or "good" or "bad" or "better",
etc., are statements of opinion.  That can change if the
qualifying words are given precise and objective definitions, but
in most cases they have not been.

A statement of fact is a statement concerning an objective question,
such as "Is every even number greater than 4 the sum of two prime
numbers?".  A statement of fact can be right or wrong or true or
false, even if it isn't known at the present time which of those is
the case.  The statement "Four colors suffice to color any planar
map such that adjacent regions do not have the same color" is a
statement of fact, both now and 60 years ago before the statement
had been proven.  Both P==NP and P!=NP are statements of fact, even
though one of them must certainly be false;  the key property is
that they are objective statements, subject to falsification.  If I
say "The Earth is flat", that is a statement of fact, even though
the statement is false.

In any case, my statements about a particular subset of C being
Turing Complete were statements of fact, and also true statements.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Dec 24 * transpiling to low level C132Thiago Adams
15 Dec 24 +* Re: transpiling to low level C10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Dec 24 i`* Re: transpiling to low level C9Thiago Adams
15 Dec 24 i `* Re: transpiling to low level C8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec 24 i  `* Re: transpiling to low level C7Thiago Adams
16 Dec 24 i   `* Re: transpiling to low level C6BGB
16 Dec 24 i    +- Re: transpiling to low level C1Thiago Adams
16 Dec 24 i    +- Re: transpiling to low level C1bart
16 Dec 24 i    +- Re: transpiling to low level C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec 24 i    `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Keith Thompson
17 Dec 24 i     `- Re: transpiling to low level C1bart
15 Dec 24 +* Re: transpiling to low level C3Chris M. Thomasson
15 Dec 24 i`* Re: transpiling to low level C2Thiago Adams
15 Dec 24 i `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Chris M. Thomasson
15 Dec 24 +* Re: transpiling to low level C3bart
15 Dec 24 i`* Re: transpiling to low level C2Thiago Adams
15 Dec 24 i `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Thiago Adams
15 Dec 24 `* Re: transpiling to low level C115Bonita Montero
15 Dec 24  +* Re: transpiling to low level C112bart
16 Dec 24  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C111BGB
16 Dec 24  i +- Re: transpiling to low level C1David Brown
16 Dec 24  i +* Re: transpiling to low level C22Thiago Adams
17 Dec 24  i i`* Re: transpiling to low level C21BGB
17 Dec 24  i i `* Re: transpiling to low level C20Thiago Adams
17 Dec 24  i i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C15Thiago Adams
17 Dec 24  i i  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C14Thiago Adams
17 Dec 24  i i  i `* Re: transpiling to low level C13bart
17 Dec 24  i i  i  `* Re: transpiling to low level C12Thiago Adams
17 Dec 24  i i  i   `* Re: transpiling to low level C11bart
18 Dec 24  i i  i    `* Re: transpiling to low level C10BGB
18 Dec 24  i i  i     `* Re: transpiling to low level C9Thiago Adams
19 Dec 24  i i  i      `* Re: transpiling to low level C8BGB
19 Dec 24  i i  i       `* Re: transpiling to low level C7bart
19 Dec 24  i i  i        `* Re: transpiling to low level C6BGB
19 Dec 24  i i  i         +* Re: transpiling to low level C3bart
19 Dec 24  i i  i         i`* Re: transpiling to low level C2BGB
20 Dec 24  i i  i         i `- Re: transpiling to low level C1BGB
23 Dec 24  i i  i         `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Dec 24  i i  i          `- Re: transpiling to low level C1BGB
17 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: transpiling to low level C4BGB
17 Dec 24  i i   +* Re: transpiling to low level C2Thiago Adams
18 Dec 24  i i   i`- Re: transpiling to low level C1BGB
21 Dec 24  i i   `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec 24  i +* Re: transpiling to low level C74Janis Papanagnou
16 Dec 24  i i+* Re: transpiling to low level C16bart
16 Dec 24  i ii`* Re: transpiling to low level C15Janis Papanagnou
17 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: transpiling to low level C14bart
17 Dec 24  i ii  +* Re: transpiling to low level C12Keith Thompson
17 Dec 24  i ii  i+- Re: transpiling to low level C1BGB
17 Dec 24  i ii  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C10bart
17 Dec 24  i ii  i +- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
17 Dec 24  i ii  i +* Re: transpiling to low level C6Waldek Hebisch
17 Dec 24  i ii  i i+* Re: transpiling to low level C4bart
18 Dec 24  i ii  i ii`* Re: transpiling to low level C3Waldek Hebisch
18 Dec 24  i ii  i ii `* Re: transpiling to low level C2bart
18 Dec 24  i ii  i ii  `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Waldek Hebisch
18 Dec 24  i ii  i i`- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
17 Dec 24  i ii  i `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Keith Thompson
18 Dec 24  i ii  i  `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
17 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
21 Dec 24  i i`* Re: transpiling to low level C57Tim Rentsch
21 Dec 24  i i `* Re: transpiling to low level C56Janis Papanagnou
21 Dec 24  i i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C2Tim Rentsch
22 Dec 24  i i  i`- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
21 Dec 24  i i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C20Michael S
22 Dec 24  i i  i+* Re: transpiling to low level C16Janis Papanagnou
22 Dec 24  i i  ii`* Re: transpiling to low level C15Michael S
22 Dec 24  i i  ii `* Re: transpiling to low level C14Janis Papanagnou
22 Dec 24  i i  ii  `* Re: transpiling to low level C13Michael S
22 Dec 24  i i  ii   +* Re: transpiling to low level C10Janis Papanagnou
23 Dec 24  i i  ii   i`* Re: transpiling to low level C9Tim Rentsch
23 Dec 24  i i  ii   i `* Re: transpiling to low level C8Waldek Hebisch
23 Dec 24  i i  ii   i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C3David Brown
25 Dec 24  i i  ii   i  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C2BGB
28 Dec 24  i i  ii   i  i `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Tim Rentsch
4 Jan21:12  i i  ii   i  `* Re: transpiling to low level C4Tim Rentsch
4 Jan21:53  i i  ii   i   +- Re: transpiling to low level C1Chris M. Thomasson
5 Jan12:18  i i  ii   i   `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Ben Bacarisse
5 Jan18:04  i i  ii   i    `- Re: transpiling to low level C1James Kuyper
22 Dec 24  i i  ii   `* Re: transpiling to low level C2James Kuyper
22 Dec 24  i i  ii    `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Janis Papanagnou
23 Dec 24  i i  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C3Tim Rentsch
23 Dec 24  i i  i `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Chris M. Thomasson
24 Dec 24  i i  i  `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Chris M. Thomasson
22 Dec 24  i i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C27Waldek Hebisch
22 Dec 24  i i  i+* Re: transpiling to low level C2Michael S
22 Dec 24  i i  ii`- Re: transpiling to low level C1bart
22 Dec 24  i i  i+* Re: transpiling to low level C3Tim Rentsch
22 Dec 24  i i  ii`* Re: transpiling to low level C2Waldek Hebisch
4 Jan20:18  i i  ii `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Tim Rentsch
22 Dec 24  i i  i`* Re: transpiling to low level C21Janis Papanagnou
22 Dec 24  i i  i +* Re: transpiling to low level C4Michael S
23 Dec 24  i i  i i+- Re: transpiling to low level C1bart
23 Dec 24  i i  i i+- Re: transpiling to low level C1Michael S
23 Dec 24  i i  i i`- Re: transpiling to low level C1Tim Rentsch
23 Dec 24  i i  i +- Re: transpiling to low level C1Waldek Hebisch
23 Dec 24  i i  i +* Re: transpiling to low level C14David Brown
23 Dec 24  i i  i i+* Re: transpiling to low level C2bart
23 Dec 24  i i  i ii`- Re: transpiling to low level C1David Brown
23 Dec 24  i i  i i+* Re: transpiling to low level C10Michael S
23 Dec 24  i i  i ii+- Re: transpiling to low level C1David Brown
23 Dec 24  i i  i ii`* Re: transpiling to low level C8Tim Rentsch
23 Dec 24  i i  i i`- Re: transpiling to low level C1Chris M. Thomasson
23 Dec 24  i i  i `- Re: transpiling to low level C1Tim Rentsch
22 Dec 24  i i  +* Re: transpiling to low level C2Ben Bacarisse
22 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: transpiling to low level C4Kaz Kylheku
16 Dec 24  i `* Re: transpiling to low level C13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 Dec 24  `* Re: transpiling to low level C2Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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