Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types"

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Sujet : Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types"
De : david.brown (at) *nospam* hesbynett.no (David Brown)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 05. Apr 2025, 16:34:13
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On 04/04/2025 21:18, Keith Thompson wrote:
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
It is easy to write code that is valid C23, using a new feature copied
from C++, but which is not valid C++ :
>
constexpr size_t N = sizeof(int);
int * p = malloc(N);
 It's much easier than that.
      int class;
 Every C compiler will accept that.  Every C++ compiler will reject
it.  (I think the standard only requires a diagnostic, which can
be non-fatal, but I'd be surprised to see a C or C++ compiler that
generates an object file after encountering a syntax error).
 Muttley seems to think that because, for example, "gcc -c foo.c"
will compile C code and "gcc -c foo.cpp" will compile C++ code,
the C and C++ compilers are the same compiler.  In fact they're
distinct frontends with shared backend code, invoked differently
based on the source file suffix.  (And "g++" is recommended for C++
code, but let's not get into that.)
 For the same compiler to compile both C and C++, assuming you don't
unreasonably stretch the meaning of "same compiler", you'd have to
have a parser that conditionally recognizes "class" as a keyword or
as an identifier, among a huge number of other differences between
the two grammars.  As far as I know, nobody does that.
Mr. Flibble's universal compiler?  :-)

 You and I know he's wrong.  Arguing with him is a waste of everyone's
time.
 
Yes, it seems that way.  Sometimes he makes posts that are worth answering or correcting, but the threads with him inevitably go downhill.

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