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On 14.04.2024 02:29, Michael S wrote:[...]On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 00:23:44 +0100>
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 00:13:36 -0000 (UTC)>
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:35:47 +0200, Janis Papanagnou wrote:>
It seems that's one of the fundamental differences between>
(low-level) languages that want to provide such technical factors
explicit to the user and between languages that want to provide a
higher abstraction.
>
Algol 60, Pascal, Simula 67 and Algol 60, Eiffel, etc. all took
that approach.
Pascal had explicit pointers, though. Algol 68 and Ada did not.
Of course, Ada has pointers. The are called access types.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Types/access
>
I never learned Algol-68, but considering your reputation I'd want
to see confirmation from more reliable source.
I suppose it all depends on what constitutes a pointer, but Algol 68
has pointers to this extent:
>
BEGIN
INT i := 42;
[3] INT a := (1, 2, 3);
>
REF INT p := i; CO p is a "pointer" to i
CO REF INT(p) := 99; CO changes i via p
CO p := a[2]; CO p now points to the second element of array a
CO REF INT(p) := 99; CO change that element via p
CO
>
print((i, a[1], a[2], a[3]))
END
>
I'd call p a pointer.
>
Thank you.
It looks closer to C than to Pascal, i.e. pointer can point to any
object rather than just to dynamically allocated object.
The major difference is that they are closely bound to the type.
In that respect they are more like Pascal pointers. C pointers
open the can of issues with arithmetic on pointer values. You
don't find that in Pascal or Algol 68.
Date | Sujet | # | Auteur | |
7 Apr 24 | Recursion, Yo | 102 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
7 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 100 | fir | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 99 | Janis Papanagnou | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 7 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 5 | Janis Papanagnou | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | Ben Bacarisse | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 3 | Janis Papanagnou | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Keith Thompson | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | bart | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 91 | Ben Bacarisse | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Ben Bacarisse | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 89 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Chris M. Thomasson | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 86 | David Brown | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 84 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 83 | David Brown | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 73 | bart | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 71 | David Brown | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 70 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | Kaz Kylheku | |
11 Apr 24 | Heh heh... (Was: Recursion, Yo) | 3 | Kenny McCormack | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Heh heh... (Was: Recursion, Yo) | 2 | Kaz Kylheku | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Heh heh... (Was: Recursion, Yo) | 1 | Kenny McCormack | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 65 | David Brown | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 62 | Kaz Kylheku | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | David Brown | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 60 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Kaz Kylheku | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Dan Cross | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 57 | Janis Papanagnou | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 6 | David Brown | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 5 | Janis Papanagnou | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 3 | David Brown | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Janis Papanagnou | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | David Brown | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 45 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 44 | Janis Papanagnou | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | bart | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 42 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 14 | Michael S | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 11 | Ben Bacarisse | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 10 | Michael S | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 9 | Janis Papanagnou | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 8 | Keith Thompson | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 7 | Ben Bacarisse | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 6 | Keith Thompson | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | bart | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Ben Bacarisse | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 3 | Janis Papanagnou | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Keith Thompson | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Keith Thompson | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 27 | Janis Papanagnou | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 26 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 25 | Ben Bacarisse | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | bart | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Ben Bacarisse | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 22 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 20 | Chris M. Thomasson | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 5 | Ben Bacarisse | |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 3 | Ben Bacarisse | |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
22 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 14 | Janis Papanagnou | |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
22 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 11 | Michael S | |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 9 | Tim Rentsch | |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | bart | |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 3 | Ben Bacarisse | |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Keith Thompson | |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Kaz Kylheku | |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Keith Thompson | |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Keith Thompson | |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Tim Rentsch | |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Tim Rentsch | |
22 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Ben Bacarisse | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | bart | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Janis Papanagnou | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | bart | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Keith Thompson | |
13 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Tim Rentsch | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Keith Thompson | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | David Brown | |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | fir | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Janis Papanagnou | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Kaz Kylheku | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | David Brown | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
12 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Ben Bacarisse | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 4 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Kaz Kylheku | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 2 | David Brown | |
11 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Kaz Kylheku | |
10 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Tim Rentsch | |
9 Apr 24 | Re: Recursion, Yo | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
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