Re: C23 thoughts and opinions

Bonita Montero ha scritto:

Am 24.05.2024 um 09:32 schrieb jak:

Bonita Montero ha scritto:

Am 23.05.2024 um 21:49 schrieb Thiago Adams:

On 23/05/2024 16:25, Bonita Montero wrote:

I ask myself what the point is in further developing a language
like this that can actually no longer be saved.

do you mean C++?
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No, C.

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I think you have a lot of confusion about programming languages. C and
C++ are not comparable languages.

 C and C++ have a lot in common since 95% of what you can do you can do
in C++ also in the same way. But C++ puts 500% on top of that to solve
your tasks with a fraction of the code and if you use that the code
looks totally different than C.
 

About this I only agree partially because it depends a lot on the
context in which it is used. Moreover, I would not know how to indicate
an optimal programming language for all seasons.

I'm pretty convinced that c++ will be abandoned long before c.

 Maybe, but for sure not in favour of C.
 

I absolutely agree with you.

Just for one example, c++ would be abandoned years ago if c# didn't
produce CLI code only because C# lacks nothing important than C++
and the learning curve is much steeper (it also benefits from reflection).

 Being a good C++ programmer needs a lot of experience, but if you've
done that you get a magnitude more productivity. And often you decide
for simple approaches in C because complex approaches are a lot of work.
Often this complex and more efficient approach is easy to handle in C++
if you managed to understand the language.
 

What you describe is the greatest inconvenience of c++. To make only one
example, when they decided to rewrite the FB platform to accelerate it,
they thought of migrating from php to c++ and they had a collapse of the
staff suitable for work, so they thought of relying a compiler that
translated the php into c++ and many of the new languages were born to
try to remedy hits complexity.