Re: Running an editor from ANSI C

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Sujet : Re: Running an editor from ANSI C
De : malcolm.arthur.mclean (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Malcolm McLean)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 13. Jun 2024, 00:45:27
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On 12/06/2024 22:34, Keith Thompson wrote:
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
Pepole will want the shell to go into FileSystem XML files, list the
contents, and maybe extract or insert individual files. And so I've
now
put in a powerful ls command.
[...]
 Which people, other than you, actually want that?  Do you have real
or potential users who desire that feature?
 Windows can easily mount an ISO image file as a filesystem.
File Explorer can dive into a .zip file (by unpacking it into a
temporary directory).  Linux has sshfs and other tools that use
libfuse, a userspace filesystem framework.  Squashfs is a common way
to treat a single file as a filesystem.  There are other examples.
And they all give the user access to all the system tools available
for working with files and directories; none are restricted to
whatever facilities are provided by BabyX or some similar project.
 If you're doing this just for the fun of it, that's great --
but you seem to be saying not just that others will find your XML
pseudo-filesystem useful, but that there's an existing demand for it.
I'm skeptical.
 
I don't know. It's early days yet. But now I can give Baby X some attention and generally spruce things up, there are encouraging signs,
and not all hits on the hit counter are my own by any means.
Baby X uses the FileSystem XML format to mount virtual internal drives. Now people might not want that, but that's likely because they don't want to use Baby X at all. If they do like Baby X, they will be intrigued by this. And so they will have a need to be able to edit the files. Now one good project will be to write something like Apple's finder using Baby X itself. But that's quite a challenge. The other way is to provide a Unix-like shell so that people can go into the file, move up and down the directories with cd, and then use the basic tools like cp, rm and so on to move the files about. And the most important of those tools is ls. Whatever you are doing, you will always want to list the files. So I spent a lot of time trying to write a really good ls. And of course I developed most of it in the regular shell first. You can see my efforts on the website.
But now we've got this program, the temptation is to turn it into a shell rather than a directory explorer, by adding the ability to run MiniBasic scripts. However no one is going to use that for anything serious. They'll just want play with the MiniBasic. So I'm holding off on any significant work on the interpreter just yet, until the tools for the serious user are in and locked down.
And Baby X is portable and baby. Fuse for FileSystem XML is a great idea, but not for Baby X.
--
Check out my hobby project.
http://malcolmmclean.github.io/babyxrc

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Jun 24 * Running an editor from ANSI C88Malcolm McLean
6 Jun 24 `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C87Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jun 24  `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C86Malcolm McLean
6 Jun 24   +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C80Janis Papanagnou
6 Jun 24   i+- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jun 24   i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C78Malcolm McLean
6 Jun 24   i `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C77David Brown
6 Jun 24   i  +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
6 Jun 24   i  +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Richard Harnden
6 Jun 24   i  i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i  i `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jun 24   i  `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C72Keith Thompson
7 Jun 24   i   +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C30Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i   i+* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C28Keith Thompson
7 Jun 24   i   ii+* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C26Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i   iii`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C25Keith Thompson
7 Jun 24   i   iii +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24   i   iii i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C12Michael S
8 Jun 24   i   iii i +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i   iii i i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C5Michael S
8 Jun 24   i   iii i i +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
9 Jun 24   i   iii i i `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 24   i   iii i i  `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Michael S
10 Jun 24   i   iii i i   `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i   iii i +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4Keith Thompson
9 Jun 24   i   iii i i+- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Kaz Kylheku
9 Jun 24   i   iii i i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 24   i   iii i i `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Keith Thompson
9 Jun 24   i   iii i `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24   i   iii +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C8Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i   iii i+* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C5Janis Papanagnou
7 Jun 24   i   iii ii`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i   iii ii +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Richard Harnden
7 Jun 24   i   iii ii +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Ben Bacarisse
7 Jun 24   i   iii ii `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Kaz Kylheku
7 Jun 24   i   iii i+- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Keith Thompson
8 Jun 24   i   iii i`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i   iii `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Chris M. Thomasson
8 Jun 24   i   iii  `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jun 24   i   iii   `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jun 24   i   ii`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i   i`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Kaz Kylheku
7 Jun 24   i   `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C41Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24   i    +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i    `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C39David Brown
7 Jun 24   i     `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C38Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24   i      +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i      +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C8James Kuyper
8 Jun 24   i      i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i      i `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C6James Kuyper
8 Jun 24   i      i  +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i      i  i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Malcolm McLean
8 Jun 24   i      i  i +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Jun 24   i      i  i `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jun 24   i      i  `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24   i      `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C28David Brown
7 Jun 24   i       `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C27Malcolm McLean
8 Jun 24   i        +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4Malcolm McLean
8 Jun 24   i        i+* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Kaz Kylheku
8 Jun 24   i        ii`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
8 Jun 24   i        i`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1James Kuyper
8 Jun 24   i        +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4Kaz Kylheku
8 Jun 24   i        i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Malcolm McLean
8 Jun 24   i        i `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Kaz Kylheku
8 Jun 24   i        i  `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
9 Jun 24   i        `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C18David Brown
10 Jun 24   i         `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C17Malcolm McLean
10 Jun 24   i          `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C16David Brown
10 Jun 24   i           `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C15Malcolm McLean
10 Jun 24   i            `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C14Richard Harnden
11 Jun 24   i             +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Malcolm McLean
11 Jun 24   i             i`- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Jun 24   i             `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C11Malcolm McLean
12 Jun 24   i              +* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C7David Brown
12 Jun 24   i              i`* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C6Malcolm McLean
12 Jun 24   i              i `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C5Richard Harnden
12 Jun 24   i              i  `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C4David Brown
12 Jun 24   i              i   `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Malcolm McLean
12 Jun 24   i              i    `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Keith Thompson
13 Jun 24   i              i     `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Malcolm McLean
12 Jun 24   i              `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3tTh
12 Jun 24   i               `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Malcolm McLean
12 Jun 24   i                `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1David Brown
6 Jun 24   +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jun 24   +- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1BGB
6 Jun 24   `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C3Mikko
6 Jun 24    `* Re: Running an editor from ANSI C2Malcolm McLean
7 Jun 24     `- Re: Running an editor from ANSI C1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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