Sujet : Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation?
De : david.brown (at) *nospam* hesbynett.no (David Brown)
Groupes : comp.lang.c sci.stat.mathDate : 19. Jun 2024, 18:41:49
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On 19/06/2024 17:36, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
No. We have to have some knowledge. And what we probaby know is that the
input is a file stored on someone's personal computer. And someone has
published on the statistical distribution of such files
That's not the case that matters (to me at least). If the input is a
file, we have a much better way of "guessing" the size than guessing and
growing -- just ask for the size. Sure, we might need to make
adjustments if the file is changing, but there is always a better
measure than any statistical analysis.
To some extent this seems like a solution in search of a problem.
It seems more like a solution that doesn't exist in search of a problem with absurdly unrealistic requirements. And even if Malcolm's solution existed, and the problem existed, it /still/ wouldn't work - knowing the distribution of file sizes tells us nothing about the size of any given file.
Growing the buffer exponentially is simple and effective.
Yes, that's the general way to handle buffers when you don't know what size they should be.
A better solutions for this sort of program is usually, as you say, asking the OS for the file size (there is no standard library function for getting the file size, but it's not hard to do for any realistic target OS). And then for big files, prefer mmap to reading the file into a buffer.
It's only really for unsized "files" such as piped input that you have no way of getting the size, and then exponential growth is the way to go. Personally, I'd start with a big size (perhaps 10 MB) that is bigger than you are likely to need in practice, but small enough that it is negligible on even vaguely modern computers. Then the realloc code is unlikely to be used (but it can still be there for completeness).
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17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 1 | | Chris M. Thomasson |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 53 | | Ben Bacarisse |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 52 | | Malcolm McLean |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 50 | | Ben Bacarisse |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 49 | | Malcolm McLean |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 21 | | Ben Bacarisse |
17 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 17 | | Anton Shepelev |
18 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 16 | | Tim Rentsch |
18 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 8 | | Malcolm McLean |
18 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 5 | | Malcolm McLean |
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2 Jul 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 3 | | Malcolm McLean |
2 Jul 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 1 | | Ben Bacarisse |
4 Jul 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
24 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 2 | | Tim Rentsch |
24 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 1 | | David Brown |
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20 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 1 | | David Brown |
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24 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 7 | | Malcolm McLean |
24 Jun 24 | Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation? | 3 | | Keith Thompson |
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