Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect

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Sujet : Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect
De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 19. Oct 2024, 06:56:50
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On 10/18/2024 6:44 PM, olcott wrote:
On 10/15/2024 8:43 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
On 14/10/2024 23:17, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/13/2024 7:57 PM, olcott wrote:
On 10/13/2024 11:34 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2024-10-12, Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2024 11:28 AM, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
On 12.10.2024 11:32, Jan van den Broek wrote:
2024-10-12, Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> schrieb:
On 10/11/2024 7:50 PM, olcott wrote:
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[Schnipp]
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As I see it, the main Halting Problem is Olcott not halting.
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LOL! - A very nice one. Thanks for that. :-)
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I second that. :^)
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You're likely thousand-seconding that. The Olcott not halting joke
is many years old now, and will likely come up again.
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My cancer has gotten worse.
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*ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect*
https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
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I had to dumb this down from the original halting problem
input so that reviewers can verify that HHH is correct
without hardly paying any attention at all:
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void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
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When HHH is an x86 emulation based termination analyzer
then each DDD emulated by any HHH that it calls never returns.
[...]
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Isn't that similar to:
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void foobar()
{
     foobar();
}
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? >
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Similar, but different because HHH only performs a /partial/ step by step emulation of DDD - it stops emulating after a while and returns, so DDD() halts.
 DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86
language cannot possibly reach its own return instruction
no matter what HHH does.
 When HHH rejects DDD on this basis it is necessarily correct.
Is there any difference between 100% correct and necessarily correct?

 https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
ChatGPT finally totally explains away all of the quibbling
about whether HHH is correct to reject DDD as non-halting.
 
foobar() will never halt (ignoring physical resource constraints like running out of stack).  foobar() undergoes infinite recursive call.  DDD() exhibits /finite/ recursive emulation, then halts.
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Mike.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Oct 24 * ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct47olcott
12 Oct 24 +* Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct41Chris M. Thomasson
12 Oct 24 i`* Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct40Jan van den Broek
12 Oct 24 i `* Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct39Janis Papanagnou
12 Oct 24 i  `* Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct38Chris M. Thomasson
13 Oct 24 i   `* Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct37Kaz Kylheku
14 Oct 24 i    `* ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect36olcott
15 Oct 24 i     +* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect14Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 24 i     i+- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
16 Oct 24 i     i+* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect10Mike Terry
16 Oct 24 i     ii+* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect6Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 24 i     iii`* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect5Mike Terry
19 Oct 24 i     iii +- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
20 Oct 24 i     iii +* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect2Chris M. Thomasson
21 Oct 24 i     iii i`- ChatGPT 4.0 soundly refutes this key rebuttal of my work1olcott
20 Oct 24 i     iii `- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 24 i     ii`* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect3olcott
19 Oct 24 i     ii `* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect2Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 24 i     ii  `- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
19 Oct 24 i     i+- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
21 Oct 24 i     i`- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
15 Oct 24 i     +* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect17tTh
15 Oct 24 i     i+* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect13Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 24 i     ii`* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect12Mike Terry
15 Oct 24 i     ii +* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect9Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 24 i     ii i+* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect7Mike Terry
15 Oct 24 i     ii ii+- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Mike Terry
15 Oct 24 i     ii ii`* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect5Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 24 i     ii ii +- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
16 Oct 24 i     ii ii `* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect3Mike Terry
16 Oct 24 i     ii ii  +- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 24 i     ii ii  `- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
19 Oct 24 i     ii i`- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
19 Oct 24 i     ii `* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect2olcott
19 Oct 24 i     ii  `- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
17 Oct 24 i     i+* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect2Bonita Montero
19 Oct 24 i     ii`- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
19 Oct 24 i     i`- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1olcott
15 Oct 24 i     `* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect4Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 24 i      +- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 24 i      `* Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect2olcott
19 Oct 24 i       `- Re: ChatGPT explains why rebuttals of my work are incorrect1Chris M. Thomasson
12 Oct 24 +- Re: ChatGPT explains why by rebuttal of the halting problem proofs is correct1Chris M. Thomasson
13 Oct 24 `* C function HHH correctly reports that DDD never terminates --- boiled down to two sentences4olcott
13 Oct 24  `* Re: C function HHH correctly reports that DDD never terminates --- boiled down to two sentences3tTh
13 Oct 24   `* Re: C function HHH correctly reports that DDD never terminates --- boiled down to two sentences2olcott
15 Oct 24    `- Re: C function HHH correctly reports that DDD never terminates --- boiled down to two sentences1Chris M. Thomasson

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