Re: else ladders practice

On 25/11/2024 18:30, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

On 24/11/2024 21:45, Keith Thompson wrote:

 

A more useful installation would of course need more standard headers,
an assembler, linker, and whatever .a files are needed to provide the
standard library.

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Sure, those are all part of a C implementation, though they're not part
of gcc.

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This seems to be a thing with Linux, where a big chunk of a C
implementation is provided by the OS.

 Actually, no.  The OS provides the dynamic linker and some os-specific
header files.   Pretty much everything else comes from various
third-party packages.
 

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That is, standard headers, libraries, possibly even 'as' and 'ld'
utilities.

 None of those come from the OS.  They come from separate packages
produced by third parties (some, like gcc, binutils, etc come from
the FSF, other libraries come from other sources).
 

And of course there are different standard C libraries available, as well as different C compilers, and you can mix and match - gcc with musl, clang with glibc, icc with newlib, etc.  There has to be a certain degree of cooperation and compatibility for a compiler and a library to work together, but they can be (and usually are) separate projects from separate groups.

 

On Windows, C compilers tend to be self-contained (except for

 Leaving aside the fact that Windows has always been a toy
environment, all the tools you complain about were developed
on, and primarily for UNIX and derivitives.  Not windows.