Re: 80386 C compiler

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Sujet : Re: 80386 C compiler
De : tr.17687 (at) *nospam* z991.linuxsc.com (Tim Rentsch)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 28. Nov 2024, 01:45:17
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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> writes:
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On 2024-11-25, Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 18:23:58 -0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku  wrote:
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void fn(int a)
{
  int x[3] = { foo(), bar(), a }; /* not in C90 */
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is in the above foo() called before bar()?
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No, you cannot rely on that.  Maybe it's fixed in a more recent standard,
but C99 (which I happen to have open in a PDF reader tab) stated that
"The order in which any side effects occur among the initialization list
expressions is unspecified.".  This implies that there is no sequence
point between any two initializing expressions, which means we don't
know whose expression's function call takes place first.
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N3096 (C23 draft) has :
"""
The evaluations of the initialization list expressions are
indeterminately sequenced with respect to one another and thus the order
in which any side effects occur is unspecified.
"""
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C23 is more explicit (redundant?) than C99, which doesn't mention the
lack of a sequence point.  (C11 dropped sequence points, replacing them
with "sequenced before", "sequenced after", and "unsequenced", basically
a new way of describing the same semantics.)
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Given:
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    int n = 42;
    int a[] = { n++, n++ };
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C99 could imply that the value of a is merely unspecified, either {
42, 43 } or { 43, 42 }.  Though it can almost certainly be inferred
from other parts of the C99 standard that there is no sequence
point between the two evaluations of n++ (I haven't taken the time
to check).

Under C99 rules, I believe this initializer has undefined
behavior, because of more than one modification of an object
without an intervening sequence point.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Nov 24 * 80386 C compiler36Paul Edwards
24 Nov 24 +* Re: 80386 C compiler6fir
24 Nov 24 i+* Re: 80386 C compiler2fir
25 Nov 24 ii`- Re: 80386 C compiler1Paul Edwards
24 Nov 24 i`* Re: 80386 C compiler3Bart
25 Nov 24 i `* Re: 80386 C compiler2BGB
25 Nov 24 i  `- Re: 80386 C compiler1Paul Edwards
24 Nov 24 +* Re: 80386 C compiler24Janis Papanagnou
25 Nov 24 i`* Re: 80386 C compiler23Paul Edwards
25 Nov 24 i `* Re: 80386 C compiler22Kaz Kylheku
25 Nov 24 i  +* Re: 80386 C compiler20Rosario19
26 Nov 24 i  i`* Re: 80386 C compiler19Kaz Kylheku
26 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: 80386 C compiler7Keith Thompson
26 Nov 24 i  i i+* Re: 80386 C compiler5Paul Edwards
27 Nov 24 i  i ii`* Re: 80386 C compiler4Keith Thompson
27 Nov 24 i  i ii `* Re: 80386 C compiler3Paul Edwards
27 Nov 24 i  i ii  `* Re: 80386 C compiler2Keith Thompson
27 Nov 24 i  i ii   `- Re: 80386 C compiler1Paul Edwards
28 Nov 24 i  i i`- Re: 80386 C compiler1Tim Rentsch
27 Nov 24 i  i +* Re: 80386 C compiler9David Brown
27 Nov 24 i  i i`* Re: 80386 C compiler8Kaz Kylheku
27 Nov 24 i  i i +* Re: 80386 C compiler6James Kuyper
27 Nov 24 i  i i i`* Re: 80386 C compiler5Kaz Kylheku
28 Nov 24 i  i i i `* Re: 80386 C compiler4James Kuyper
30 Nov 24 i  i i i  `* Re: 80386 C compiler3Kaz Kylheku
30 Nov 24 i  i i i   +- Re: 80386 C compiler1Tim Rentsch
30 Nov 24 i  i i i   `- Re: 80386 C compiler1James Kuyper
28 Nov 24 i  i i `- Re: 80386 C compiler1David Brown
28 Nov 24 i  i +- Re: 80386 C compiler1Tim Rentsch
30 Nov 24 i  i `- Re: 80386 C compiler1Rosario19
26 Nov 24 i  `- Re: 80386 C compiler1Paul Edwards
25 Nov 24 `* Re: 80386 C compiler5Lynn McGuire
26 Nov 24  `* Re: 80386 C compiler4Keith Thompson
26 Nov 24   `* Re: 80386 C compiler3Lynn McGuire
26 Nov 24    `* Re: 80386 C compiler2Keith Thompson
26 Nov 24     `- Re: 80386 C compiler1BGB

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