Re: else ladders practice

Bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

On 30/11/2024 05:25, Tim Rentsch wrote:
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

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I remember having much shorter file (core of 3rd-party TCP protocol
implementation) where compilation with gcc took several seconds.
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Looked at it now - only 22 Klocs.
Text size in .o - 34KB.
Compilation time on much newer computer than the one I remembered, with
good SATA SSD and 4 GHz Intel Haswell CPU - a little over 1 sec.  That
with gcc 4.7.3.  I would guess that if I try gcc13 it would be 1.5 to 2
times longer.
So, in terms of Klock/sec it seems to me that time reported by Bart
is not outrageous.  Indeed, gcc is very slow when compiling any source
several times above average size.
In this particular case I can not compare gcc to alternative, because
for a given target (Altera Nios2) there are no alternatives.

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I'm not disputing his ratios on compilation speeds.  I implicitly
agreed to them in my earlier remarks.  The point is that the
absolute times are so small that most people don't care.  For
some reason I can't fathom Bart does care, and apparently cannot
understand why most other people do not care.  My conclusion is
that Bart is either quite immature or a narcissist.  I have tried
to explain to him why other people think differently than he does,
but it seems he isn't really interested in having it explained.
Oh well, not my problem.

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EVERYBODY cares about compilation speeds.  [...]

No, they don't.  I accept that you care about compiler speed.  What
most people care about is not speed but compilation times, and as
long as the times are small enough they don't worry about it.

Another difference may be relevant here.  Based on other comments of
yours I have the impression that you frequently invoke compilations
interactively.  A lot of people never do that (or do it only very
rarely).  In a project I am working on now I do builds often,
including full builds where every .c file is recompiled.  But all
the compilation times together are only a small fraction of the
total, because doing a build includes lots of other steps, including
running regression tests.  Even if the total compilation time were
zero the build process wouldn't be appreciably shorter.

I understand that you care about compiler speed, and that's fine
with me;  more power to you.  Why do you find it so hard to accept
that lots of other people have different views than you do, and
those people are not all stupid?  Do you really consider yourself
the only smart person in the room?