Re: Proving the: Simulating termination analyzer Principle

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Sujet : Re: Proving the: Simulating termination analyzer Principle
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 06. Apr 2025, 01:35:05
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On 4/5/2025 5:31 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 05/04/2025 23:20, olcott wrote:
On 4/5/2025 4:58 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
 <snip>
 
hp(arg candidate, arg testdata)
{
   if(terminates(candidate(testdata)))
   {
     while(forever);
   }
   else
   {
     halt;
   }
}
>
We then invoke the program:
>
hp(hp, hp)
>
and try to predict what terminates() will report, and of course the answer is that we don't know, because neither does terminates(). The function cannot be written.
>
>
Understanding my simpler example was a mandatory
prerequisite
 No, it wasn't.
 Understanding my example isn't mandatory either, which is just as well where you're concerned.
 
int DD()
{
   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
   if (Halt_Status)
     HERE: goto HERE;
   return Halt_Status;
}
 That's fine, but it does beg the HHH() question. You are handwaving it for the same reason I am, which is that it can't be written. The difference between us is that I know it and you don't.
 
HHH(DDD) is isomorphic to HHH(DD), yet failing
to understand that HHH(DDD) meets the
*Simulating termination analyzer Principle*
prevents the significance of this from being seen.
--
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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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