Re: this girl calls c ugly

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Sujet : Re: this girl calls c ugly
De : bc (at) *nospam* freeuk.com (Bart)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 29. May 2026, 19:09:50
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On 29/05/2026 17:48, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
On 2026-05-29 18:12, Bart wrote:
On 29/05/2026 16:59, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
On 2026-05-29 15:22, Bart wrote:
>
I noticed that you didn't answer my questions.
>
Yes, because, as experience shows, it's obviously a waste of time!
>
Okay, I'll bite. - I'll go waste my time again and comment on your
other post where you said you are confused about these cases...
>
Why bother?  C isn't ever going to change operator precedence
just to make Bart happy.
 I think it's the "someone is wrong on the internet" syndrome.[*]
My apologies. :-)
 
>
It would make me happy just for someone to admit there are problems. JP always says they are perfect but for one little thing.
 You said in your previous post that I would have said that they
are perfect. And now you are even saying that I'd always say that.
 Please stop that!
 Just for the record...
 What I would say is that operator precedences are in "C"
"sensibly and appropriately defined, modulo the bit-ops".
You actually said this:
 > (The point is that - with the exception of & ^ | - the ranking
 > makes perfectly sense and should be easily usable without doubt
 > by a concept-knowing programmer."
(14-May-2026 0159 BST.)
And today:
 > Unsurprisingly; since exactly *that* was the obvious (and single)
 > issue with C's precedence definitions.
So you do seem to have a consistent view that there is only one thing wrong with C operator precedence.
However, in that same 14-May post was this exchange:
Dan Cross:
 >> Programmers _should_ absolutely learn the rules.  But in C,
 >> there are many of them, and some of them are deceptively subtle.
JP:
 > We agreed.
So, a hint of something else that is amiss? You just seem reluctant to say it yourself, but will disagree with me when I suggest it, while at the same time agree when somebody else does so.

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