Re: nasty link problem with Gfortran and G++ (C++) ???

On 1/12/2025 2:20 PM, Steven G. Kargl wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0800, baf wrote:
 

On 1/10/2025 3:01 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote:

Hm, OK.   I'm not familiar with how Simply Fortran operates; they do
not cooperate with the gfortran team (but rather make money off the
work of volunteers). If you have questions regarding teir toolbox,
this is best addressed to them.
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It is not strictly true that the Simply Fortran folks make money off the
work of volunteers. They do not charge for the use of gfortran. Anyone
can install their software for free, and that installation provides
gfortran (and friends) that can be accessed from the command line
without any license from Simply Fortran. What they do charge for is
their IDE.

 I suppose that is one way to look at the situation. OTOH,
Simply Fortran would not exist if gfortran did not exist.

That is probably true if no alternative Fortran compiler was available. However, their IDE doesn't really depend that much a specific compiler, and most of the operation could easily be used with any compiler that had command line options.

SF's homepage does not even bother to acknowledge that the
Fortran compiler is in fact gfortran.  One does find on the
'Features' page: "Simply Fortran has been designed from the
start with GNU Fortran integration as the primary goal."
Additionally, there is no easily found information concerning
the actual version of GCC that comes with SF.

While it could be displayed more predominantly, they certainly don't hide the version number they are distributing on their news page when describing a new version of the IDE.

 I suspect that Thomas's point is that the SF developer(s)
have not sent bug reports, patches to fix bugs, engaged
with any of gfortran's main contributors, or even said
"Thank you".  Sure, the GPL does not require such behavior,
but the current lack of interaction appears to be somewhat
discourteous.
 

I agree that they certainly could/should interact with the gfortran developers. I know that they (it appears to be primarily a single person operation) have put in a lot of effort to ensure that gfortran builds correctly for windows, which based on my years of building the compiler for Windows, is a horrible job.