failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech)

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Sujet : failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.lang.prolog
Date : 06. Nov 2024, 09:33:11
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Hi,
Not only are the fucking PIPs behind a
login wall that doesn't work:
Dictionaries in Prolog
https://gitlab.software.imdea.org/prolog-lang/pip-0102
I cannot read gitlab.software.imdea.org,
since it redirects to some internal server
during login.
Also formal verification doesn't have the
same track record as fuzzying. Take the SWI-Prolog
red-black trees. Are they really red-black trees?
I used fuzzy testing to find the test case.
Exhaustive enumeration of permutation seemed to
be out of reach computationally.
So I used these random permutations to find a
discrepancy in resulting tree depth:
fuzzer(R) :-
    numlist(1, 16, L),
    between(1, 1000, _),
    random_permutation(L, R).
Maybe the same technique can use to find smaller
discrepancies, and then use the smaller examples to
pin down difference in implemented balance
rules or implement rebalancing strategy.
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
@herme wrote:
 Just a quick comment: note that you can make
and discuss the PIP proposals directly on
the PIPs discourse.
 Here my response:
 I will probably never go there since somebody
tried censoring my comments and said I don’t
work towards the Prolog cause. The good thing
about SWI-Prolog discourse, it has become
 quite calm cocerning attempts to censor people,
possibly because some particular people left.
Which is in my opinion the best thing that
could happen to this forum. There is no
 guarantee in other forums to really have free speech.
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Sep 24 * Differences among the "bomb" and "xbetween" (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)9Mild Shock
9 Oct 24 +* The issue with free speech4Mild Shock
6 Nov 24 i`* failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech)3Mild Shock
6 Nov 24 i `* Re: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech)2Mild Shock
6 Nov 24 i  `- Re: failure of formal verification [software.imdea.org] (Was: The issue with free speech)1Mild Shock
12 Oct 24 `* variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)4Mild Shock
12 Oct 24  +- Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)1Mild Shock
12 Oct 24  `* Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)2Mild Shock
12 Oct 24   `- Re: variant_term/2 is faster than variant/1 (Was: Request for comments, Novacore the sequel to ISO modules)1Mild Shock

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