Re: Can we trust the Scryer Prolog Gurus? (Was: A harsh wind is blowing into the face of Prolog now… )

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Sujet : Re: Can we trust the Scryer Prolog Gurus? (Was: A harsh wind is blowing into the face of Prolog now… )
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.lang.prolog
Date : 23. Jul 2024, 00:30:26
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That the DEC 10 Prolog 1975 is close to Prolog 0,
can be verified by reading the Prolog 0 manual:
MANUEL DE REFE RE NeE ET D'UTILISATION - PROLOG
ROUSSEL Ph. (1975)
http://alain.colmerauer.free.fr/alcol/ArchivesPublications/ManuelProlog/Pr.pdf
So at that same year there was already an
English rip-off. If I read the french, I also
don't find some atom/1, integer/1 equivalent
that would throw an instantiation error. Problem
is again, what would have been an exception in Prolog 0?
Mild Shock schrieb:
For example one Guru claimed?
  > Prolog were invented today, I think there would
 > be at least two significant differences:
 >
 > First, the type-testing predicates like atom/1,
 > integer/1 and compound/1 would (and should) throw
 > instantiation errors if their arguments are not
 > sufficiently instantiated.
 >
 > This is also what the original versions of Prolog
 > did. However, DEC 10 Prolog chose to replace instantiation
 > errors by silent failures, and this has been
 > perpetuated in the Edinburgh tradition for type tests
 > including the ISO standard.
https://www.quora.com/If-prolog-were-being-invented-today-with-no-concern-for-backward-compatibility-or-the-existing-standardization-how-would-it-differ-from-standard-prolog   I cannot verify any of the above nonsense.
 First of all the term "DEC-10 Prolog" is ambigious:
 DEC 10 Prolog 1975
https://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/prolog/prolog/edinburgh/doc/Warren-Epilog_400_400-1975.pdf   DEC 10 Prolog 1982
https://userweb.fct.unl.pt/~lmp/publications/online-papers/DECsystem-10%20PROLOG%20USER%27S%20MANUAL.pdf   The DEC 10 Prolog 1975 looks very close to Prolog 0
with its french predicate names. There is not a simgle
atom/1, integer/1 equivalent that would throw an
 instantiation error. Actually Prolog 0 didn't even
have some sort of exceptions, right?
 Mild Shock schrieb:
Especially since good old FORTRAN has
made a new appearance:
>
TIOBE Index for May 2024
I have received a lot of questions why Fortran entered the top 10
again after more than 20 years. The TIOBE index just publishes
what has been measured.
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>
Why Fortran is back in TIOBE’s top 10
First, Fortran is especially good at numerical analysis and
computational mathematics. Numerical and mathematical
computing is growing because interest in artificial intelligence
is growing, Jansen told TechRepublic in an email.
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/tiobe-index-may-2024/
 

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