Guide on how to protect your investments (Was: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog?)

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Sujet : Guide on how to protect your investments (Was: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog?)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.lang.prolog
Date : 24. Nov 2024, 12:38:39
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Hi,
I don't feel adressed by you critique. Since I
think the idea of an Prolog engine is the wrong
approach. The idea should be a Prolog language,
like the ISO core standard. SWI-Prolog did everything
to be different and better from the ISO core standard.
And ended up with a bloathed engine that runs
non-portable code. I did a little bit the same error
with formerly Jekejeke Prolog, it did not pay attention
to apply the KISS principle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
If would continue developing formerly Jekejeke Prolog
as I did in the past, I would introduce a module
class loader with advent of JDK 9, which would give
an additional layer of grouping to the Prolog modules.
Dogelog Player tries to do something else with its
Novacore. It tries to minimize the Prolog language
implemented by the Prolog engine. If you develop against
an idea of a Prolog language and not against an idea of
a Prolog engine, chances are higher that stay agile and
can easily switch Prolog engines, and protect your investment.
Bye
P.S.: Also with novacore its very hard. I wrote an
Novacore adapter for GNU Prolog:
https://www.novacuor.ch/srctab/doclet/docs/07_envir/adapter/gnu/package.html
But all Unicode test cases fail. Since GNU Prolog
cannot do Unicode.
But Unicode is part of Novacore.
Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
On 24/11/2024 04:25, Mild Shock wrote:
 
You want a GNU license, still you can demonstrate
that GNU licensing system failed in the case of
GNU Prolog to create a vital community especially
 I just need a product that works properly, that isn't just spaghetti code at all levels, and from a team/company that doesn't pull the rug, or sabotages, or black mails me as soon as I am invested enough.  I could even pay for that, as we used to do for technology when software and developing software was still a professional endeavour.  And GNU has little to do with any failure, except the failure of humanity that humanity is: rather everybody is an MS/Google/Monsanto employee by now.
 
an interesting fork somewhere that supported Unicode.
 That Unicode even enters these discussions is a joke.  I'll just end up writing my own Prolog engine: a GPL-licensed Prolog engine in JS/Wasm, and an open project proper.  Or maybe I'll just switch to Mizar...  You stay tuned: next black Friday.
 -Julio
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Nov 24 * Should I use Dogelog?26Julio Di Egidio
24 Nov 24 `* There is GNU Prolog (Was: Should I use Dogelog [Player]?)25Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  +* Affero General Public License (AGPL) (Was: There is GNU Prolog)19Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i`* Re: Affero General Public License (AGPL) (Was: There is GNU Prolog)18Julio Di Egidio
24 Nov 24  i +* Dogelog no Module System / for Prolog Applets (Was: Affero General Public License (AGPL))5Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i i`* Java Applets were killed in 2017 (Was: Dogelog no Module System / for Prolog Applets)4Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i i `* The biggest morons on this planet are SO mods (Was: Java Applets were killed in 2017)3Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i i  `* incompetence and stupidity among SO mods (Was: Fuck Around and Find Out (FAFO))2Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i i   `- Re: incompetence and stupidity among SO mods (Was: Fuck Around and Find Out (FAFO))1Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i `* Is it that worse with GNU Prolog? (Was: Affero General Public License (AGPL))12Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i  +- Whats the formula of ZIG (Was: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog?)1Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i  `* Re: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog? (Was: Affero General Public License (AGPL))10Julio Di Egidio
24 Nov 24  i   +- Re: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog? (Was: Affero General Public License (AGPL))1Julio Di Egidio
24 Nov 24  i   `* Guide on how to protect your investments (Was: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog?)8Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i    +* Focus on Prolog language is better than focus on Prolog engine (Was: Guide on how to protect your investments)2Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i    i`- Example that violates KISS (Was: Focus on Prolog language is better than focus on Prolog engine)1Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i    `* Re: Guide on how to protect your investments (Was: Is it that worse with GNU Prolog?)5Julio Di Egidio
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24 Nov 24  i       `* Erlang got big with Gaming2Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  i        `- New Wild West is knocking on the door? (Was: Erlang got big with Gaming)1Mild Shock
24 Nov 24  `* Re: There is GNU Prolog (Was: Should I use Dogelog [Player]?)5Julio Di Egidio
24 Nov 24   `* Creating a [Web] Debugger? (Was: There is GNU Prolog)4Mild Shock
24 Nov 24    `* Current Work Around: ASCII <-> Browser Cycle (Was: Creating a [Web] Debugger?)3Mild Shock
24 Nov 24     `* Recent library(misc/markup) improvement (Was: Current Work Around: ASCII <-> Browser Cycle)2Mild Shock
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