Re: A Timeless Confluence [Term Rewriting] (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)

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Sujet : Re: A Timeless Confluence [Term Rewriting] (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.lang.prolog
Date : 09. Dec 2024, 21:09:56
Autres entêtes
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For confluence see here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confluence_(abstract_rewriting)
Mild Shock schrieb:
 Ok Confluence does indeed ring a bell. Lets show
Declarative (What) versus Procedural (How) in
@emiruz example, as a rewriting problem.
 Lets permit that we write the input as [1,2,a,4,5,
b,c,8,9,10] and then have rewriting rules [a->3,b->6,
c->7,d->8] applied, by this little Declarative (What) code:
 step(L,R) :- nth1(K,L,a,H), nth1(K,R,3,H).
step(L,R) :- nth1(K,L,b,H), nth1(K,R,6,H).
step(L,R) :- nth1(K,L,c,H), nth1(K,R,7,H).
step(L,R) :- nth1(K,L,d,H), nth1(K,R,8,H).
 find(L,L) :- \+ step(L,_).
find(L,R) :- step(L,H), find(H,R).
 Each derivation is a Procedural (How) execution:
 ?- find([1,2,a,4,5,b,c,8,9,10],X).
X = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10];
X = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10];
X = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
Etc..
 Can we count the number of Hows to solve the What?
 ?- aggregate_all(count, find([1,2,a,4,5,b,c,8,9,10],X), C).
C = 6.
 So there are 6 different Procedures that tell
us which steps to exactly use when, to solve the
Declaratively given problem which leaves open
 when to use each step.
 Mild Shock schrieb:
A Timeless Confluence
>
By the banks of thought where rivers entwine,
Emmy Noether walked through a realm divine.
Her algebra wove the fabric of laws,
While echoes of logic gave her pause.
>
There stood Michael Kohlhase, a seeker of form,
Shaping machines through a digital storm.
“Madame,” he began, with respect in his tone,
“Your ideals still guide what we’ve come to own.
>
Noetherian rings, your towering art,
Anchor the systems of which I’m a part.
In rewriting paths, your truth remains,
Simplifying chaos, dissolving chains.”
>
Emmy smiled, her brilliance aglow,
"Through eras, the seeds of knowledge grow.
Yet tell me, dear traveler, in your machine’s frame,
Do ideals endure, or fade like a flame?”
>
Michael replied, “Your vision holds,
In logic’s rewrite, it gently unfolds.
Past meets the present where structures align,
A confluence of thought, eternal, divine.”
>
And so they stood, two eras combined,
Bound by the currents of the infinite mind.
>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Noether
>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kohlhase
>
Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
On 09/12/2024 16:47, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>
term rewriting also can do the trick and quite more simply so...
>
I take that back, too.  I cannot find a way out of ancestral cuts in the recursive case.  Some term rewriting could rather be useful *in conjunction* with that `scut`, since that as written messes up with the stack trace...  Anyway, that's another story.
>
-Julio
>
>
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Dec 24 * Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?11Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24 `* Re: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?10Mild Shock
9 Dec 24  +* '$MARK' and '$CUT' (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)2Mild Shock
9 Dec 24  i`- Re: '$MARK' and '$CUT' (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)1Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24  `* Re: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?7Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24   +* Re: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?2Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24   i`- Re: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?1Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24   `* Re: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?4Julio Di Egidio
9 Dec 24    `* A Timeless Confluence [Term Rewriting] (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)3Mild Shock
9 Dec 24     `* Re: A Timeless Confluence [Term Rewriting] (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)2Mild Shock
9 Dec 24      `- Re: A Timeless Confluence [Term Rewriting] (Was: Can we do this with ancestral cuts or something?)1Mild Shock

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