Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New

Poincare is said to have never spent a long time on a
problem since he believed that the subconscious would
continue working on the problem while he consciously
worked on another problem. So he had a self model
that included some automatic processing. Mostlikely
Einstein used similar techniques, Einstein is said
to have slept about 10 hours a night, which is more
than the average adult needs, and often took naps
during the day. So both men managed and tapped into
their more holistic thinking. A nice example of
what is nowadays called "dual processing":
Dual-process accounts of reasoning postulate that there
are two systems or minds in one brain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_process_theory#Background
But dual processing is now challenged a little bit.
Just imagine a ChatGPT doing things when the end-user
is idle? Just like a chess program that continues
"thinking", when it is the opponents turn:
Yuval Noah Harari: ChatGPT is the “amoeba of AI evolution”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfid5DUoSBI
What will be the resulting physics?
Mild Shock schrieb:

 Poincare has surely still a fellowship,
maybe a form of counter culture, similar like
Spencer Brown. Who halucinates a supervenient
 logic over the logics from the formal revolution,
mostly appealing to diagrammtic reasoning.
 "The mathematician Darboux claimed he was un
intuitif (an intuitive), arguing that this is
demonstrated by the fact that he worked so
often by visual representation. Jacques Hadamard
wrote that Poincaré's research demonstrated
marvelous clarity[76] and Poincaré himself wrote
that he believed that logic was not a way to
invent but a way to structure ideas and that
logic limits ideas."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9#Character
 This is a very common psychological defense
mechanism, sometimes having even a religious
 motivation, in that it is believed that the
face of God or Angels speak to humans through
mathematics. But once again with generative
 AI and halucinating ChatGPT this humanist
monopole is challenged somehow even more.
 Mild Shock schrieb:

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Poincare had quite some problems with the
formal revolution that took place as well
in the last 100 or more years, starting with
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things like naive set theory and its antinomies,
ending with computer formalized proofs of the Keppler
packing nowadays. He wrote a lengthy book:
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Science and method
by Poincaré, Henri, 1854-1912
https://archive.org/details/sciencemethod00poinuoft/page/n3/mode/2up
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His struggle starts at page 160, The New Logics.
Similar Einstein was New Mechanics for him.
Mostlikely Poincaré nowadays would be a form of
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Sabine Hossenfelder with 100 YouTube videos and
possibly many followers. Poincaré faced the
destiny of any old fart that became irrelevant
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over the time and turned into a commentator.
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