Vectors are the new JSON (Was: SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio)

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Sujet : Vectors are the new JSON (Was: SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio)
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : comp.lang.prolog
Date : 10. Jan 2025, 11:32:01
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Hi,
I have switched to use the term "Fuzzy Logic", since
Probability and/or Bayes is surely misleading.
"Fuzzy Logic" is quite old:
In 1965, in his essay Fuzzy Sets[5] - which had been
cited more than 70,000 times by mid-2017 - he first
presented his concept of a theory of fuzzy sets, which
became the nucleus and basis of the rapidly developing
fuzzy logic - (content: The Logic of Uncertainty  )
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotfi_Zadeh#Leistungen
This is also quite intersting, but PostgreSQL is not
the only database management system, that provides
such retrieval extensions:
Vectors are the new JSON
https://www.postgresql.eu/events/pgconfeu2023/sessions/session/4592/slides/435/pgconfeu2023_vectors.pdf
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
 In as far I still hold my position, and you can review
the position in 3-5 years when stupid cows like the MSE
people have done all their learning:
 This here:
 The content you provide must either be your own original work, or your summary of the properly referenced work of others. [...] Generative artificial intelligence tools are not capable of citing the sources of knowledge used up to the standards of the Stack Exchange network. https://math.stackexchange.com/help/gen-ai-policy
 Is mostlikely outdated. It ignores RAG:
 Was ist Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)?
https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/retrieval-augmented-generation/
 Bye
 Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
>
I posted this already on sci.math, sci.logic and
sci.physics. Its probably the most important addition
to current LLMs, i.e. Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG).
>
But somehow the morons of MSE don't understand a bit
whats going on around and about the world. They are
quite immune to progress in AI. Like stupid cows.
>
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More details on RAG, see here RETRO Project (*) at t=12:01:
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What's wrong with LLMs and what we should be building instead
Tom Dietterich - 10.07.2023
https://youtu.be/cEyHsMzbZBs
>
So its not a very new technique now appearing in
generative AIs on the market as well. Some chat bots
are even now able to sometimes show more clearly the
>
used source documents in their answer. The MSE end
user can still edit a citation by hand to conform
more to the SEN format, if this would be the issue.
>
Also the MSE end user can explicitly now ask a chat
bot for sources, which he will get most of the time.
Or he can give a chat bot a source for review and
>
discussion. This works also. So there is not anymore
this "remoteness" of an LLM to the actual virtual
world of documents. Its more that they now inhabit the
>
actual virtual world and interact with it. Another issue
I see is that in certain countries and educational
institutions, it might the case that working with a
>
chat bot is something that the students learn,
yet they are not officially allowed to use it on
MSE, because MSE policies are biased on outdated
>
views about generative AI.
>
See also:
>
(*) RETRO Project:
>
Improving language models by retrieving from trillions of tokens
Sebastian Borgeaud et al. - 7 Feb 2022
https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.04426
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Bye
>
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
>
Prologers with their pipe dream of Ontologies
with Axioms are most hurt by LLMs that work
more on the basis of Fuzzy Logic.
>
Even good old "hardmath" is not immune to
this coping mechanism:
>
"I've cast one of my rare votes-to-delete. It is
a self-answer to the OP's off-topic "question".
Rather than improve the original post, the effort
has been made to "promote" some so-called RETRO
Project by linking YouTube and arxiv.org URLs.
Not worth retaining IMHO.
-- hardmath
>
https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/a/38051/1482376
>
Bye
>
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jan 25 * Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs6Mild Shock
10 Jan 25 `* RETRO Project Sebastian Borgeaud et al. - 7 Feb 2022 (Was: Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs)5Mild Shock
10 Jan 25  `* SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio (Was: RETRO Project Sebastian Borgeaud et al. - 7 Feb 2022)4Mild Shock
10 Jan 25   `* Vectors are the new JSON (Was: SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio)3Mild Shock
10 Jan 25    `* XAI is over and out (Was: Vectors are the new JSON)2Mild Shock
10 Jan 25     `- Academia is retarded (Re: XAI is over and out)1Mild Shock

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