Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

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Sujet : Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once
De : list1 (at) *nospam* tompassin.net (Thomas Passin)
Groupes : comp.lang.python
Date : 08. Jun 2024, 18:10:13
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On 6/8/2024 11:54 AM, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:39 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
 
On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>
Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the
list.  I often wonder how these askers can possibly come up with
acceptable code if they don't realize they don't truly know what it's
supposed to do.
>
Fortunately, having to explain to someone else why something is giving
you trouble can help shed light on the fact the problem statement isn't
clear, or isn't clearly understood. Sometimes (sadly, many times it
doesn't).
  The original question struck me as homework or an interview question for a
junior position. But having no clear requirements or specifications is good
training for the real world where that is often the case. When you question
that, you are told to just do something, and then you’re told it’s not what
is wanted. That frustrates people but it’s often part of the process.
People need to see something to help them know what they really want.
At the extremes, there are two kinds of approaches you are alluding to. One is what I learned to call "rock management": "Bring me a rock ... no, that's not the right one, bring me another ... no that's not what I'm looking for, bring me another...".  If this is your situation, so, so sorry!
At the other end, there is a mutual evolution of the requirements because you and your client could not have known what they should be until you have spent effort and time feeling your way along.  With the right client and management, this kind of project can be a joy to work on.  I've been lucky enough to have worked on several projects of this kind.
In truth, there always are requirements.  Often (usually?) they are not thought out, not consistent, not articulated clearly, and not communicated well. They may live only in the mind of one person.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
30 May 24 * From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once28HenHanna
30 May 24 +* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once15dn
31 May 24 i`* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once14HenHanna
1 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Peter J. Holzer
1 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Thomas Passin
5 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1dn
5 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Grant Edwards
5 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Thomas Passin
7 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Mats Wichmann
8 Jun 24 i +* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once2Larry Martell
8 Jun 24 i i`- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Stefan Ram
8 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Thomas Passin
8 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1<avi.e.gross
8 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Thomas Passin
9 Jun 24 i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1<avi.e.gross
9 Jun 24 i `- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Grant Edwards
31 May 24 +* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once2Pieter van Oostrum
31 May 24 i`- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Grant Edwards
31 May 24 +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1dieter.maurer
31 May 24 +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Thomas Passin
1 Jun 24 `* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once8Mats Wichmann
3 Jun 24  `* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once7Edward Teach
3 Jun 24   +* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once5Grant Edwards
4 Jun 24   i`* Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once4Edward Teach
4 Jun 24   i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Grant Edwards
4 Jun 24   i +- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1<avi.e.gross
5 Jun 24   i `- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1Chris Angelico
4 Jun 24   `- Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once1dieter.maurer

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