Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:24 AM Peter J. Holzer via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:

On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:

One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - -  well in the
devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its just
not available on devuan 4.

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Couldn't you just upgrade to Devuan 5, then?
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I like uptime and not measured in hours either so I'm presently not running
Devuan 5
or testing - - - although I used to. Just found that I didn't need the most
recent versions
of most of the tools I was using so find the stability (except for the
bloody browsers)
in stable version is to be appreciated.

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Tried installing all the tools I need using downloads and .deb installs

but

then I need to have python3.12 and that's also not part of Devuan4.

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It seems weird that something would work with the (presumably) older
version of Python in Devuan 3 and the (presumably) newer version of
Python in Devuan 5, but not with the version in Devuan 4.
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Well - - - pstool was available in a version that worked in Devuan 3,
psytool is available in a version that works in Devuan 4 - - - beyond my
pay
grade as to why there isn't a version available for Devuan 4.

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Not versed enough to set up a good venv (if that's possible) so that I
could work in that specific venv and have my cake (and get to eat it too
(grin!).

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You need to install Python first to create a venv. AFAIK there is no way
to set up a venv first and then install Python into it.
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Does Devuan have a testing or unstable suite? You might be able to
install a newer Python version from that. If not your best bet is to
install Python from source.
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First question answered earlier.
If I installed python 3.12 from source I would create a hung system for
myself.
(Been there and done that - - - got the T-shirt and it still stinks!)

Regards