Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?

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Sujet : Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.lang.python
Date : 10. Mar 2026, 15:55:34
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In comp.os.linux.misc c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 3/9/26 09:59, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
   The Python VENV *seems* to be thwarting my
   ability to run certain hard-core system
   routines via "os.system()" or related. The
   'virtual' seems to be for idiot 7-year-olds
   you don't want to crash the box.
>
   Well, sometimes, I *want* to crash the box.
 
As Jon says, you’ve misdiagnosed your problem.
 
  COULD be ...
 
  But I still note that things that worked clean
  and easy pre-VENV now DON'T.
 
  Who/what should I blame ?
 
  There's no POINT in a 'virtual environment/machine'
  unless you PLAN to isolate the base machine from
  the application to various degrees.
 
If you actually want someone to help solve your problem then you’ll have
to accurately describe what you are trying and what is happening. In
practice this means posting the exact code you are using and exactly
what happens when you run it.
 
  Too fuckin' old now, not gonna get into a million
  details and sub-sub-sub-config-files. I just report
  that some lower-level OS commands no longer work
  as expected, or at all, using the usual Python
  utilities for doing so.
 
  I want the VENV *dead* ... CAN that be done ???

And, again, much as Jon said, you are blaming "venv's" but given us no
examples to support your assertion.  It is *very likely* that you
indeed are blaming the wrong thing.  How about creating a very short
example that works without a venv but fails within one, and posting
that example.  That will give others, who may know far more python than
you do, something to analyze and maybe show you where the problem
really exists.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Mar 26 * Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?31Lawrence D’Oliveiro
9 Mar 26 `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?30c186282
9 Mar 26  +- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Jon Ribbens
9 Mar 26  `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?28Richard Kettlewell
10 Mar 26   `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?27c186282
10 Mar 26    +* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?2Richard Kettlewell
10 Mar 26    i`- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1c186282
10 Mar 26    +* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?23Rich
10 Mar 26    i+* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?4Jon Ribbens
11 Mar 26    ii+- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
11 Mar 26    ii+- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Richard Kettlewell
11 Mar 26    ii`- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Jon Ribbens
10 Mar 26    i+- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Richard Kettlewell
10 Mar 26    i+* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?2Rich
11 Mar 26    ii`- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
10 Mar 26    i+* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?14Piergiorgio Sartor
11 Mar 26    ii+- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1mm0fmf
11 Mar 26    ii`* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?12Pancho
11 Mar 26    ii +- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Piergiorgio Sartor
11 Mar 26    ii +* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?2Lawrence D’Oliveiro
12 Mar 26    ii i`- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
12 Mar 26    ii `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?8Nuno Silva
12 Mar 26    ii  +- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
13 Mar 26    ii  `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?6Pancho
13 Mar 26    ii   `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?5Lawrence D’Oliveiro
14 Mar 26    ii    `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?4Pancho
14 Mar 26    ii     +- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1Lawrence D’Oliveiro
14 Mar 26    ii     `* Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?2The Natural Philosopher
14 Mar 26    ii      `- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
10 Mar 26    i`- Re: Defeat Python "Virtual Environment" in Fedora ?1rbowman
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