Re: Android Usenet news newsreader

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Sujet : Re: Android Usenet news newsreader
De : andrew (at) *nospam* spam.net (Andrew)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android news.software.readers it.tlc.cellulari.android
Date : 01. May 2024, 23:15:42
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Andrew originally wrote:
Are there any other Android Usenet news newsreaders than these?
 
1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
   https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noasy.newsreader
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=usenet.sinaapp.com
 
Some of those are no longer valid URLs but I'm just looking for the package
names of all known Android Usenet news newsreaders (whether they're bad or
worse) as once I know the package I can get the APK from mirrors such as
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader
https://www.appbrain.com/app/noasy-reader/com.noasy.newsreader

< WARNING >
  Please scroll to the bottom for the latest Mod17 links, one of which
  has an invalid decryption key so you can only use the Mod16 link for it!
</ WARNING >

Dave Royal wrote:
See the thread 'Newsreader for Android' in ng 'news.software.readers'
for mod.piaohong versions.

This one?
    From: kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 20:44:54 +0100
    Message-ID: <uo41vk$124mn$2@dont-email.me>

    Is there a usable Android newsreader?
    I used to use Groundhog, but that one hasn't been maintained for a few
    years (and the apk can be installed but doesn't play well with my
    current Android phone).
    I also have PhoNews, but not only is that one incredibly slow, it also
    keeps forgetting I paid for the full version.

That post mentioned PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader & Ken's Usenet Reader
both of which were already in the list but it also mentioned Ken's demo.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader>

And apparently in that thread you had kindly supplied a URL to a modded'
PiaHong newsreader credited to 'alfio' or 'P/ero' on the Italian newsgroup.
<https://mega.nz/file/aJpFRI4Z#UjkHkl90feawI1_EFOd4eEkautnQPWFSwmqW7NUW2jA>

Which apparently came from
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/ntEtNepA/modded-newsreader-apk-by-piaohong-download>

Name: 20240501_modded_PiaHong_Usenet_newsreader_signedNewsReader_mod_1.65.M10.apk
Size: 2238872 bytes (2186 KiB)
SHA256: A6079804589087EB98D5699AA577E4E6CFCE31B8682EA3154860801231175DAB

Google Translation: "Modded Newsreader.apk by PiaoHong - download?"
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/ntEtNepA/modded-newsreader-apk-by-piaohong-download?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

Later on you mention "Alfio has produced a new version M11 of his modded
version of the PiaiHong newsreader. This fixes bugs in M10. It's a new
app from Android's viewpoint so you should delete M10 or the original.
It doesn't work on Android 14. It's based on the 1.65 free version of
the PiaiHong Newsreader.
<https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/Q64EXrJy/piaohong-news-reader-mod-11>

Where this is the link to download the modified version M11.
<https://mega.nz/file/qVxDVB5R#9d4p7fay3KS20yD7mfIvHafUZFji3kEXy1W9B_Gtgrs>

Name: NewsReader_1.65.M11.apk
Size: 2237140 bytes (2184 KiB)
SHA256: 980F3489602A9E58D4F80F3AEA8AC4315880C17859DD425879F23214EF5E7282

Google Translation: "PiaoHong News Reader Mod 11"
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/Q64EXrJy/piaohong-news-reader-mod-11?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

There is a related post in that thread, which Google translated for us.

    From: Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:45:50 +0100
    Message-ID: <uoqpov$t83j$1@solani.org>

    I didn't feel like leaving Android 14 owners without my Mod.
    so I worked hard and this is the result:
    https://mega.nz/file/iVYSlRKD#kSeQuOLfmAqocp_6MkWWDxoE3MN1S17pwQ2WSRrss4M

    this is the latest version released by PiaoHong, 2.02, in which
    I made all the changes made in recent years to the previous one
    1.65.
    I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know.

    Unfortunately, although the name of this mod is different from the original,
    you can't install them together, you get this warning:
    https://i.postimg.cc/05wPh4hm/Screenshot-2024-01-23-22-38-24-511-com-miui-packageinstaller.jpg
    whatever Google means by "services", it complains that it sees it
    same identifier in different applications.

    if you update the M11 instead, there are no problems.

And then a quick followup by that same Italian poster.
    From: Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:48:25 +0100
    Message-ID: <uoqptq$t84m$1@solani.org>

    Ammammata explained on 01/24/2024:
    > I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know

    and you've already found one! :-)))
    here's the fix:
    https://mega.nz/file/3cpgyCiR#xtmcG09dvt3E0oqlk4awBz7VbrNUpfJ9Y1qXM4Jec0o
    the previous link is no longer valid.

    maybe further updates will follow

And the updates did follow.
    From: Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 18:28:27 +0000 (GMT)
    Message-ID: <up8qob$imit$1@dont-email.me>
    X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M12

    The latest version of mod.piaohong.M12 by 'alfio' (24-1-24 11.14)
     is here:
    <https://mega.nz/file/OEBjAK4A#-RfkwmqsrONXnL84PeiV74F1R8LHutjIeAAH8tnlFBQ>

    The Italian thread about it is here:
    <https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12>

    It fixes the quoting fault of the official app but, unlike the VIP
    version, it has google ads.

Where this is the file that is located at that link above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M12.apk
Size: 3972199 bytes (3879 KiB)
SHA256: B0366F5E5ACC0CD70341EAD2E8524D76A4431973899203A44B8C01CE123EF27C

And this is the Google Translation of that thread.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>
    
    PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 12 by alfio
    I didn't feel like leaving Android 14 owners without my Mod.
    so I worked hard and this is the result:
    https://mega.nz/file/iVYSlRKD#kSeQuOLfmAqocp_6MkWWDxoE3MN1S17pwQ2WSRrss4M

    it's the latest version released by PiaoHong, 2.02, in which I
    made all the changes made in recent years to the previous 1.65.
    I don't think it's bug-free, try it and let me know.

    Unfortunately, although the name of this mod is different from the original,
    they cannot be installed together, you get this warning:
    https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/8YZTRkpt/piaohong-newsreader-mod-12:i.1.1.full

Where you then posted:
    From: Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 18:22:47 +0000 (GMT)
    Message-ID: <uq0hpp$1hor2$1@dont-email.me>
    X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M14

    Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:

    Version M14
    - displays x-posted groups and has (limited) ability to change
     them when replying.
    - creates a thread from a reply if it doesn't have the replied to
     post (i.e threads that start Re:.xxxxxxxxx)

    It's here:
    <https://mega.nz/file/fFRE1Dob#-2zDfsB2XJvckN2ZZ1dJUk1GVwEEC1xrsj5aTnIbi0I>

    The Italian thread about it is here:
    <https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/Qzv1uCma/piaohong-newsreader-mod-14>

    (It has google ads.)

Where this is the file that is located at that link above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M14.apk
Size: 3972074 bytes (3878 KiB)
SHA256: 54FC22C21D3C02801BE8D48340A189C3F20C5B7E309D851F21ABBEB6FF745B7E

And this is the Google Translation of that thread.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/Qzv1uCma/piaohong-newsreader-mod-14?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

    PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 14 by alfio
    here we go again, here's a new version :-)

    the new Mod 14 solves 1 small bug of the M13, but above all,
    thanks to Dave Royal, adds the display of
    orphan messages, i.e. those messages that are part of discussions which
    do not exist on the server the initial message.

    here is the link:
    https://mega.nz/file/fFRE1Dob#-2zDfsB2XJvckN2ZZ1dJUk1GVwEEC1xrsj5aTnIbi0I

    the color of the 3-dot menu in night mode still needs to be fixed
    which is illegible in Android versions lower than 13.
    suggestions in this regard are accepted.

To which you replied there was another update to version 15.
    From: Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:03:50 +0000 (GMT)
    Message-ID: <uqfb9n$210sa$1@dont-email.me>
    X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M15

    Mod 15 fixes a major bug and adds the option to not hide quotes.
    <https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/YWALr2Gj/piaohong-newsreader-mod-15>

Here is the translation of that post by Alfio in the Italian ng.
<https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/YWALr2Gj/piaohong-newsreader-mod-15?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

    PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 15 by alfio
    https://mega.nz/file/zRx1zZQa#NwKSILiVa7TF47nCiRyqRkDT_EvovfHltT9KXGmif-8

    what's new:
    - fixed M14 bug that blocked the app by opening a thread with many
    messages
    - added option to enable hidden quoting from the 6 dots
    - application of filters when updating the group list
    - eliminated "Update" item in the main menu

    regarding filters, the original app updated the internal database
    only when a new message arrived and only the groups in which they arrived
    new messages, now by performing an "Update" (the 2 arrows or by pulling down
    the list of groups) the filters are applied to all the groups,
    so after creating a new filter you need to go to the group list and
    execute "Update" to apply it.
    I remind you that the "delete" action in the definition of a filter deletes
    the message from the internal database. By removing the filter, the deleted messages
    return only after a "reset" of the group and subsequent
    downloading of all the messages.

Here is the file at that M15 location above.
Name: ModNewsReader 2.02.M15.apk
Size: 3972074 bytes (3878 KiB)
SHA256: B6EED4058C06904BB05095F8F7CD7BC40F0487BC5E4248CA73EBAB0BF3FA48D1

Later in that same thread is an important discussion about ad blocking.
    by alfio
    A separate discussion concerns advertising messages.
    You could make a yes/no option editable and set to "yes"
    by default.
    the user can already choose not to see advertising, just use
    any AD block app.
    I use DNS66, I don't see any ads in PiaoHong.

By the way, for all the possible "Private DNS" settings, see this thread.
 Private DNS in Android settings
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44503&group=comp.mobile.android#44503>
 That thread contains every known & tested Private DNS for Android.

The thread is longer but this dialog could be important to note.
   Post by fandango:
   can I switch from Version:1.65.M10 to this one? (15)

   Post by alfio:
   No, they are two separate versions.
   But you just need to make a backup of the 10 (with the appropriate
   function, present in the server configuration in practice), and
   the new installation of the 15 will recover it for you.

   It will be installed as a new app and coexists with M10, this is because
   from M11 onwards I changed the internal name of the app to avoid
   the PlayStore always trying to update it.

And then there was a discussion about re-using an old paid version.
   Post by Henry The Mole
   https://mega.nz/file/zRx1zZQa#NwKSILiVa7TF47nCiRyqRkDT_EvovfHltT9KXGmif-8

   Do you happen to have the apk of the paid version of this app lying
   around somewhere ? I bought it and have always used it but
   now it has been removed from the PlayStore and with the latest clean
   flash of my smartphone for yet another modding I find myself taken aback.

   The app is called Usenet NewsReader (net.piaohong.NewsReader) and the latest
   version should be 2.02 late 2019.

   Post by Taf
   If alfio doesn't get you the "original" version that you purchased,
   you could download this one (which however is also "modded", like
   alfio's - but in a less "intrusive" way):
   https://www.happymod .cloud/usenet-newsreader/net.piaohong.NewsReader/
   (it's "paid for free", so someone tampered with it).

   In any case, if I were you, I would consider
   Alfio's MOD 15 which is based on Piao Hong's 2.02. At least you know
   who got their hands on it...

   Or wait to see if alfio and/or P/ero have a copy of the
   original 2.02.

   Maybe on an old device (which I don't have here with me now) I could
   even have it too. But it's a phone I haven't used for years! I'll have
   to see if it still turns on (tonight).

Where this is the prelude to the file found in that link above.
 <https://happymod.com/usenet-newsreader-mod/net.piaohong.NewsReader/>
 App name Usenet NewsReader Mod APK 1.16 [Paid for free][Free purchase]
 Version 1.16
 Update on 2019-10-26
 Size 0.65 MB
 Mod info Paid for free
 Developer Piaohong
 Usenet NewsReader Mod is a modified version of Usenet NewsReader developed
 by Piaohong. The difference between mod version and original version is:
 Paid for free... You can download latest mod version or original version
 of Usenet NewsReader 2.02 with HappyMod.
 <https://www.happymod.to/usenet-newsreader-mod/net.piaohong.NewsReader/>
 Download: Usenet NewsReader v2.02 MOD APK
 Updated On Oct 26, 2019 App Version v2.02

And this is the file linked to directly above.
 Name: com-mod-usenet-newsreader-mod-paid-1-16-17.apk
 Size: 682589 bytes (666 KiB)
 SHA256: CCDE2FE8C95995985B91D60DD45931DF4F3733B749DF73851C1248A108F7EFC6

Later in that Italian thread, Roxy posted this link to the unmodded apk.
https://apkcombo.com/newsgroup-reader/net.piaohong.newsgroup/download/apk
 Name: NewsGroup Reader_2.02_apkcombo.com.apk
 Size: 3956374 bytes (3863 KiB)
 SHA256: 39844AC67148015F204DA2B39173B7C4A77E52400AD5D361F3527C13A4A082AD

The thread goes on for a while but that seems to be the last APK link.
Then there is the next mod which was discussed.

    From: Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
    Newsgroups: news.software.readers
    Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
    Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 08:04:38 +0000 (GMT)
    Message-ID: <urc7up$13am7$1@dont-email.me>

    Mod 16 adds a simple filter on the Newsgroups header, so you can
     filter out posts x-posted to a specified group.

    There is a version with different colours.
    <https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/hfxpyFVL/nreader-mod16-quando-un-link-per-il-download>

Here is the translation of that M16 post by Alfio in the Italian ng.

    alfio
    there he is!

    version with new colors:
    https://mega.nz/file/GAwnTAaI#CshrBLtSl2smdcmHiBD0wdj-V409CJyq9nJ7IpQ0ooY
    I forgot to tell you that I then used a lighter purple
    because it looks better with the dark theme.

    version with original colors:
    https://mega.nz/file/DdQyVBgY#jq7uq7r4e8waidolLyvLgD_G_Rc82_FURYxaak7NUCI

    as the only additional feature there is the possibility to set the
    crosspost filters, everything else you reported here on the
    group still needs to be done.

And here are the two M16 files from that alfio post above.
 version with new colors:
 Name: MC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
 Size: 3935119 bytes (3842 KiB)
 SHA256: 010AAF7EFF0ABBE040E66BE0486F6D32936432EC16C8F2FB56717479C76F4CDA

 version with original colors:
 Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
 Size: 3922831 bytes (3830 KiB)
 SHA256: 97B27E062306C9D6FEA9FC6EA49FEA7D920FF7C0CB05AAFBBEB9C96758A68C97

There's a discussion about the mods being "retroactive" whatever that means.
   Post by Timo Kotipelto
   I prefer the one with the classic colors but I will also try the one
   with the colors (especially if you tell me that the installation in this case
   is retroactive).

   From Mod 12 onwards (which is based on PHNR 2.02) it is always retroactive!
   It is always installed as an update in both directions (from mod 12
   towards the latest and vice versa)

Then Roxy pointed out:
   I want to point out that on the version with basic colors the
   marked icons no longer have the white symbol on the gray icon,
   now they are all gray and it is barely visible.

To which alfio responded:
   Thanks for the report, I will change the color of that icon.
   here is the fix:
   https://mega.nz/file/nBZUwAaQ#5u3Vv7L2L5aQ7yIQOzD65-bC15FG8YuxctabJmdNq40

The M16 file that the above links to is the following:
   Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M16.apk
   Size: 3922764 bytes (3830 KiB)
   SHA256: 56F115367EBA6BDC294AD98DE2F90BA070EA2485CED8E9BBBC663E85750AC6C0

Then Mod 17 came out.
   From: Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
   Newsgroups: news.software.readers
   Subject: Re: Newsreader for Android
   Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:41:41 +0000 (GMT)
   Message-ID: <utolfm$7jfn$1@dont-email.me>
   X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M16

   Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:
   And Mod 17 a few weeks ago added:
   - the option to _not_ display replies to posts where the
    replied-to post had not been downloaded in that newsgroup (e.g.
    the reply was x-posted from another ng) 
   - the ability to add simple customised headers

   You'll find it if you look down the threads here:
   <https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/>

Apparently that thread is the following about Mod 17.
https://it.tlc.cellulari.android.narkive.com/mYfj7e7Y/piaohong-newsreader-mod-17

Which, translated, says:
 <https://it-tlc-cellulari-android-narkive-com.translate.goog/mYfj7e7Y/piaohong-newsreader-mod-17?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp>
  PiaoHong Newsreader Mod 17 by alfio

  since the Don was eager to use the new version,
  here it is :-)

  OriginalColor:
  https://mega.nz/file/uYJSwBJD#3Ya4p0HpSczyt95c_MnXjyBXYqP5J_Phkz0gZ9RbkCI

  ModColor:
  https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmg

  PJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE nothing special new on the color front, while I added 2 new
  settings:
  1- "View orphaned messages", the function was already present
  in the M16 but not everyone liked it, now you can't use it.
  Its use modifies the data present in the internal DB,
  a reset of the groups and a new refresh is therefore recommended when
  this setting is changed, otherwise you will see inconsistencies between
  messages saved before and after the change of the option.

  2- "Custom headers", you can define the attributes that
  make up the header of a message. They must be written one
  per line, separating ID from the text with the sequence ": " (colon
  space). There is no control over what you write, the
  server you post with will tell you what is wrong during
  sending.

The two related APKs for those two links above are:
  OriginalColor:
  Name: OC-ModNewsReader 2.02.M17.apk
  Size: 3926860 bytes (3834 KiB)
  SHA256: BB05B9FD454AD8D38047484FEA338DE9FDAB056F56B66D39C114162A53883815

  ModColor:
  The download attempt resulted in an error of an invalid decryption key.

Nobody seems to have noticed the invalid decryption key, so maybe it's
just me (yet all the other similar links to the same site worked for me).

Moving on in that Mod17 thread, there's a discussion about hidden features.
  From alfio: I discovered that PiaoHong had already sketched it.
  he inserted it in the server definition, the page where
   we enter the server url, port and username contains 2
   hidden fields to insert the custom headers.
   the code to use the data entered is missing, if you think it could
   also be useful at the server definition level, I can try
   to move it there, reusing the draft made by PiaoHong.

   another thing sketched out and left hidden by PiaoHong is the
   ability to mark a message as "favorite".
   here too the draft stops at the display of an icon
   (star) that changes color when pressed, the code to
   store the choice in the DB and carry out searches or filter by
   favorites is missing.
 
That's the end, where unfortunately, the "modified color" mod17
link has an invalid decryption key, so you can only get teh Mod 17
original color.

If anyone has the mod17 modified color link, please post in reply.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 May 24 * Android Usenet news newsreader11Andrew
1 May 24 +* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader7Dave Royal
1 May 24 i`* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader6Andrew
1 May 24 i `* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader5Taf@ndroid
2 May 24 i  +* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader2Dave Royal
2 May 24 i  i`- Re: Android Usenet news newsreader1Andrew
2 May 24 i  `* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader2Taf®
2 May 24 i   `- Re: Android Usenet news newsreader1Andrew
1 May 24 +- Re: Android Usenet news newsreader1AJL
1 May 24 `* Re: Android Usenet news newsreader2Jeff Layman
1 May 24  `- Re: Android Usenet news newsreader1Andrew

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