Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document

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Sujet : Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document
De : recscuba_google (at) *nospam* huntzinger.com (-hh)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.mobile.android comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date : 22. May 2024, 16:07:01
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On 5/17/24 9:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2024-05-17 17:26, Andrew wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 17:04:49 -0500 :
>
Even if nobody is using them...
>
Both phones suffer from the shitty and non-user replaceable batteries.
Glued together.
>
This is true but at least 5% of Android models still have them.
While 0% of Apple models ever had user-replaceable batteries.
 Which is irrelevant.
Indeed.  All that saying that ~95% of Android products have moved along to current design philosophies, while the last 5% haven't. It would take some more research to determine if these holdouts are actually still in production (and for what market segment) or if they're now down to "New Old Stock" that's still available for sale.

And the software that drops support after a few years.
>
The full software support for Android is far better than iOS for a variety
of reasons which the Apple zealots would never be able to comprehend.
 No... ...it's really not.
This doesn't actually matter, because fundamentally, its not a profound statement:  by literal definition as per set theory, no subset of a whole can ever be greater than the whole from which it was a subset.
As such, just what does 'full software support' really mean?  Its only of value if every Android smartphone sold is capable of using the 'full' breadth of this software set (which is dang near impossible) and then also only if this 'full' set is materially different (better) than software sets from other providers (eg, Apple iOS). Plus the Law of Diminishing Returns applies too: just because something is "N+1" larger doesn't mean that the "+1" increment is also significant.  To use a analogy, $10,000,001 is pedantically "more money" than $10,000,000, but that extra dollar doesn't make this difference be significant.

For example, apple zealots are completely ignorant that all Android phones
(4.4 & above) are updated monthly completely seamlessly over the Internet.
>
<https://www.androidheadlines.com/2022/01/google-monthly-changelog-play-system-updates.html>
   "Google System updates, meanwhile, are fully automated. Originally
    referred to as Project Mainline, these updates fix bugs discovered
    in various OS components like device connectivity, location services,
    media services, Emergency alerts, and others."
 Is that every single update?
 Don't you tout the wonder of being able to load software from anywhere?
 
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Google & Samsung phones have 7 years of multi-update full support.
  *Samsung Extends Android and Security Updates to 7 Years*
  <https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
  "Samsung phones now come backed with seven years' worth of
   security updates and seven generations of OS upgrades."
 That's only for their latest phones.
 Apple has mostly supported it's phones for longer than Samsung OR Google.
Yes, that's been their track record history.  Plus:

  *Google just put Apple and Samsung on notice - 7 years of software updates*
These "7 years" announcements were clearly made to try to have their products be better able to compete against Apple.
Plus they're merely promises of future performance which remains yet to be seen as achievable in real world practice. Let's wait to see what their respective SEC filings say about these initiatives.
-hh

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 May 24 * Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document53sms
16 May 24 +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3Jan K.
16 May 24 i+- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Your Name
16 May 24 i`- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Jörg Lorenz
16 May 24 +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document6badgolferman
16 May 24 i+* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document4Andrew
16 May 24 ii`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3badgolferman
16 May 24 ii +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Andrew
18 May 24 ii `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1sms
18 May 24 i`- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1sms
16 May 24 +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3badgolferman
16 May 24 i`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document2Andrew
16 May 24 i `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Andrew
16 May 24 +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document39Andrew
17 May 24 i`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document38Andrew
17 May 24 i `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document37Frank Slootweg
17 May 24 i  +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
17 May 24 i  +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document19Andrew
17 May 24 i  i`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document18Alan
18 May 24 i  i `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document17Hank Rogers
18 May 24 i  i  +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
18 May 24 i  i  +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Jolly Roger
18 May 24 i  i  `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document14Andrew
18 May 24 i  i   `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document13Alan
22 May 24 i  i    `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document12-hh
22 May 24 i  i     +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document6Andrew
22 May 24 i  i     i+- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
24 May 24 i  i     i`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document4-hh
24 May 24 i  i     i `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3Andrew
25 May 24 i  i     i  +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
26 May 24 i  i     i  `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1-hh
24 May 24 i  i     `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document5sms
25 May 24 i  i      `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document4Alan
26 May 24 i  i       `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3-hh
26 May 24 i  i        +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1sms
26 May 24 i  i        `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
18 May 24 i  `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document16sms
18 May 24 i   +* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document4Andrew
18 May 24 i   i`* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3Alan
19 May 24 i   i `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document2Hank Rogers
19 May 24 i   i  `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
19 May 24 i   `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document11Frank Slootweg
19 May 24 i    +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
19 May 24 i    `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document9Andrew
19 May 24 i     `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document8Jolly Roger
19 May 24 i      `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document7Andrew
19 May 24 i       `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document6Jolly Roger
19 May 24 i        `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document5Andrew
19 May 24 i         `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document4Jolly Roger
19 May 24 i          `* Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document3Andrew
20 May 24 i           +- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Jolly Roger
20 May 24 i           `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Alan
18 May 24 `- Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document1Andy Burns

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