Re: Android keyboard: your choice.

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Sujet : Re: Android keyboard: your choice.
De : address (at) *nospam* is.invalid (R.Wieser)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android
Date : 24. Jun 2024, 09:39:18
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Arno,

I did not mention the app, that was "Henry The Mole"
<henrythemole@mckenziesfarm.old> in his post on June 17, 2024.

He was the first to suggest it.  You shoved it forward several times after
him.

I just tried explained how I came to the conclusion that it does not
abuse private data

Thts pretty-much the problem : you're still talking about a(n specific) app,
while my focus was-and-is on the permission.

And although you are right that the absense of the INTERNET permission for
that app seems to indicate that exfiltration isn't possible*, I do not leave
my safe open because I've locked the front door.

*though at least one person here seems to think that Google can exfiltrate
without it.

But yes, looking at the apps manifest I do not recognise any way in which it
could.  On the other hand, that doesn't mean much, as I'm a newbie in this
(why do you think I have been asking about it?), and I could easily miss
another permissions unwanted interaction.

The end result ?  Especially with privacy related permission I don't allow
what I do not see any need for and can be done differently.  Which, for this
case, I explained that several days back.

I also repeatetly suggested *not* to trust me blindly but to ask someone
else
who is able to understand the source code of Heliboard

I do not have anyone in my neighbourhood who could, or even wanted to do
that.   They just install the stuff and trust it into high-heaven.

and maybe even compile your own version based on that code to be sure what
you get!

:-)  I seem to remember that, in relation to you making the same claim
earlier, I asked you if you also vetted the libraries that an app uses.  I
did not hear anything back, so I take  that as a "no".   And as chances will
have it the website I mentioned before also posted articles about how app
builders sometimes build malicious apps - not because they intended to do
so, but simply because they used third-party libraries that contained the
malicious code.

Besides, I think also mentioned that I do not (yet?) have access to both the
knowledge needed for it, or the tools to do so.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jun 24 * Android keyboard: your choice.82Kirill Ivanov
17 Jun 24 `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.81Henry The Mole
17 Jun 24  +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.11Andrew
18 Jun 24  i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.10Henry The Mole
18 Jun 24  i `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.9Andrew
19 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.8Henry The Mole
19 Jun 24  i   +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.5Andrew
20 Jun 24  i   i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.4Arno Welzel
21 Jun 24  i   i `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3Andrew
23 Jun 24  i   i  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Arno Welzel
23 Jun 24  i   i   `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
20 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Arno Welzel
20 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Arno Welzel
18 Jun 24  +- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Arno Welzel
18 Jun 24  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.68R.Wieser
18 Jun 24   +- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
18 Jun 24   +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.38Andy Burns
19 Jun 24   i+* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.36Andrew
19 Jun 24   ii+* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.23Arno Welzel
19 Jun 24   iii+* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.18R.Wieser
20 Jun 24   iiii`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.17Arno Welzel
20 Jun 24   iiii `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.16R.Wieser
20 Jun 24   iiii  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.15Arno Welzel
21 Jun 24   iiii   +- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1R.Wieser
21 Jun 24   iiii   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.13Andrew
21 Jun 24   iiii    +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.9R.Wieser
22 Jun 24   iiii    i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.8Andrew
22 Jun 24   iiii    i `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.7R.Wieser
22 Jun 24   iiii    i  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.6Andrew
23 Jun 24   iiii    i   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.5R.Wieser
24 Jun 24   iiii    i    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.4Andrew
24 Jun 24   iiii    i     `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3R.Wieser
24 Jun 24   iiii    i      `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Andrew
25 Jun 24   iiii    i       `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1R.Wieser
23 Jun 24   iiii    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3Arno Welzel
24 Jun 24   iiii     `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Andrew
24 Jun 24   iiii      `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
22 Jun 24   iii`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.4Andrew
22 Jun 24   iii +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2R.Wieser
22 Jun 24   iii i`- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
23 Jun 24   iii `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Arno Welzel
19 Jun 24   ii`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.12R.Wieser
20 Jun 24   ii `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.11Arno Welzel
20 Jun 24   ii  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.10R.Wieser
20 Jun 24   ii   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.9Arno Welzel
21 Jun 24   ii    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.8R.Wieser
23 Jun 24   ii     `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.7Arno Welzel
23 Jun 24   ii      `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.6R.Wieser
23 Jun 24   ii       `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.5Arno Welzel
24 Jun 24   ii        `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.4R.Wieser
27 Jun09:24   ii         `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3Arno Welzel
27 Jun10:53   ii          `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2R.Wieser
27 Jun13:02   ii           `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Arno Welzel
19 Jun 24   i`- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1R.Wieser
19 Jun 24   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.28Arno Welzel
19 Jun 24    +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.24Andy Burns
20 Jun 24    i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.23Arno Welzel
20 Jun 24    i +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.21Andy Burns
20 Jun 24    i i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.20Arno Welzel
21 Jun 24    i i `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.19R.Wieser
23 Jun 24    i i  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.18Arno Welzel
23 Jun 24    i i   +- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
23 Jun 24    i i   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.16Andy Burns
24 Jun 24    i i    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.15Andrew
24 Jun 24    i i     `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.14Andy Burns
24 Jun 24    i i      `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.13Arno Welzel
24 Jun 24    i i       `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.12Andy Burns
24 Jun 24    i i        +* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.8R.Wieser
24 Jun 24    i i        i`* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.7Andy Burns
24 Jun 24    i i        i `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.6R.Wieser
25 Jun 24    i i        i  `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.5Andrew
25 Jun 24    i i        i   `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.4R.Wieser
27 Jun05:22    i i        i    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3Andrew
27 Jun10:28    i i        i     `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2R.Wieser
27 Jun23:12    i i        i      `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
27 Jun09:26    i i        `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.3Arno Welzel
27 Jun09:52    i i         `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Andy Burns
27 Jun23:21    i i          `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Andrew
20 Jun 24    i `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1R.Wieser
19 Jun 24    +- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1R.Wieser
19 Jun 24    `* Re: Android keyboard: your choice.2Andrew
20 Jun 24     `- Re: Android keyboard: your choice.1Arno Welzel

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