Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS

Andy Burns wrote on Sun, 7 Jul 2024 19:12:04 +0100 :

I assume that you have to login to the phone with the provider pin, to
power up the phone. And then requires the phone entry auth, which
normally these days it is a pattern with the finger. And normally this
assumes you logged in to Android/google.
 
I am not going to test without that login. You try that yourself.

 
We know it's not compulsory to associate a google account with an
android phone, any guesses what percentage *do* have one?
Kind of pointless game as we have no way of finding out.

To Andy's quite valid pragmatically sensible observation...

1. We all know I don't have a Google Account set up on my phone, and
   we all know I can likely do more than most people, right?

   So we know the Google Account isn't required just to do things
   like messaging (which I do all day, every day, with iOS & Android
   users despite the moronic Apple users not understanding that).

   You just have to be intelligent about using the phone w/o Google.
   That's all.

2. However.... we also know that ~99.99% of people do exactly
   what the phone tells them to do - which - of course - is to
   set up a Google Account on that phone - which means - to Andy's
   question - I'd guess the percentage is ~99.99% (give or take)
   who, like the idiotic iPhone users, blindly log into Google
   servers every moment of every day of the rest of their lives.

3. So I get Andy's point that, if MLS requires a login account,
   and, in fact, if MLS requires both participants to have a
   login account on the same Google server, then it's not such
   a privacy flaw as I make it out to be (as they're already dead).

However, that doesn't change the question nor the answer to it, right?

Q: Does RCS require both participants to log into a server or not?
Q: Does ENCRYPTED RCS require both to log into a server or not?
Q: Does MLS require both participants to log into the same server?

Any idea?