Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025

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Sujet : Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025
De : MikeS (at) *nospam* fred.com (MikeS)
Groupes : uk.telecom.mobile comp.mobile.android misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Date : 03. Jan 2025, 11:29:32
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On 03/01/2025 10:14, Tweed wrote:
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-01-03 09:47, Scott wrote:
>
On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:09:11 -0500, Isaac Montara
<IsaacMontara@nospam.com> wrote:
>
Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are faring?
https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en
>
1. Resistance to accidental drops or scratches
& protection from dust & water
>
2. Sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
>
3. Rules on disassembly and repair, including obligations
for producers to make critical spare parts available
within 5-10 working days, and for 7 years after
the end of sales of the product model on the EU market
>
4. Availability of operating system upgrades for longer periods
(at least 5 years from the date of the end of placement on
the market of the last unit of a product model)
>
5. Non-discriminatory access for professional repairers
to any software or firmware needed for the replacement
>
Will these regulations apply in the UK?
>
As you have had explained to you at least twice before, they will become
a de facto standard, because it won't be worth the cost to the
manufacturers to produce a substantially different model for every
different market; on the contrary they will try and keep as much as
possible of every product the same world-wide.
>
 Well yes and no. The rules requiring Apple to allow third party App stores
do not apply to GB and you can’t access them in GB. (I’m being very careful
to exclude NI as I’m not sure how it works out for them). I pass no comment
on the rights and wrongs of such App stores, just pointing out that the EU
and GB markets are not entirely coincident.
 Take the rule for battery life. If your phone battery breaches the 800
cycle 80% rule in the EU you might have rights to get the battery replaced
free of charge, and you might not have those rights in GB.
 
All of that is related to usage, not the design/construction of the phone hardware. Apple may well continue to sell some existing production in the UK but as already said it is unlikely they will make special UK versions of new hardware.

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