Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?

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Sujet : Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?
De : this (at) *nospam* ddress.is.invalid (Frank Slootweg)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android
Date : 03. Jan 2025, 14:35:14
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
>
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI
and modified functions.
>
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
 
   *Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
 
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.

  I said "fill", because it's the term 's|b' used. I don't consider my
phones "filled with crap" or having too much customization.

Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.

  As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for
many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.

This is not absolutely bad, some people do like those additions. I do
like them, just not the delay they mean.

  It's a don't care for me. Security updates come in between the major
versions, not only via the manufacturer, but also through 'Google Play
system updates' (note case of the spelling, they are *system* updates,
not updates to the Google Play app or its other components).

   Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla",
"standard", "stock", etc..
 
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.

  Of course, but they are still customized and I doubt that they don't
come with any Pixel-only or/and third-party software. And over time the
meaning/content of "vanilla"/"standard"/"stock" Android has changed, so
let's not use those meaningless terms and just - as for any Android
phone - mention brand, model and Android version.

  And, one man's "crap" is another man's functionality.

   Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
 
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business
interests.

  On my HP laptops there's no "promoting" going on. On the current one,
there's about 100MB of HP-related processes, taking no other resources
(CPU, Disk and Network all at 0%).

  FYI, my current laptop no longer has "the recovery feature". There's
no 'Recovery Manager' anymore (which allowed you to re-install a factory
version from the (HP) recovery partition). I assume the Windows 10 and
11 check/repair functions were considered good enough that HP's Recovery
Manager was no longer needed.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Dec 24 * Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?51s|b
24 Dec 24 +* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?14Andrew
26 Dec 24 i`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?13s|b
27 Dec 24 i +* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?11Andrew
28 Dec 24 i i+* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?7Carlos E.R.
28 Dec 24 i ii`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?6Chris
28 Dec 24 i ii +* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?4Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24 i ii i`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?3Andrew
29 Dec 24 i ii i +- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24 i ii i `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24 i ii `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Andrew
28 Dec 24 i i`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?3s|b
29 Dec 24 i i `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Andrew
2 Jan 25 i i  `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1s|b
27 Dec 24 i `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Andrew
27 Dec 24 `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?36R.Wieser
28 Dec 24  `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?35s|b
28 Dec 24   `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?34Frank Slootweg
29 Dec 24    +- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Andrew
30 Dec 24    `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?32s|b
31 Dec 24     `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?31Bob Martin
1 Jan 25      `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?30Andrew
1 Jan 25       +- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Carlos E.R.
1 Jan 25       `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?28Arno Welzel
2 Jan 25        `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?27s|b
2 Jan 25         `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?26Frank Slootweg
2 Jan 25          +* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?23Carlos E.R.
3 Jan 25          i+* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?17Frank Slootweg
3 Jan 25          ii+* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?3Arno Welzel
4 Jan 25          iii`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Frank Slootweg
5 Jan 25          iii `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Andy Burns
3 Jan 25          ii+* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?11Carlos E.R.
4 Jan 25          iii`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?10Frank Slootweg
4 Jan 25          iii `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?9AJL
4 Jan 25          iii  `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?8Frank Slootweg
4 Jan 25          iii   `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?7AJL
4 Jan 25          iii    +- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1AJL
4 Jan 25          iii    `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?5Frank Slootweg
4 Jan 25          iii     +- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1AJL
4 Jan 25          iii     `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?3Carlos E.R.
5 Jan 25          iii      `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Frank Slootweg
5 Jan 25          iii       `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Carlos E.R.
5 Jan 25          ii`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Andy Burns
5 Jan 25          ii `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Frank Slootweg
3 Jan 25          i`* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?5Arno Welzel
4 Jan 25          i `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?4Frank Slootweg
4 Jan 25          i  `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?3Carlos E.R.
5 Jan 25          i   `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Frank Slootweg
5 Jan 25          i    `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Carlos E.R.
3 Jan 25          `* Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?2Arno Welzel
4 Jan 25           `- Re: Shortcut to Bluetooth Tethering?1Frank Slootweg

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