Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC)

On 4/2/25 10:57 PM, Peter wrote:

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
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So my statements remain backed up that Google & Apple don't provide what
over three quarters of Samsung phones provide, and Samsung is clearly the
best seller on the market bar none (Apple iPhones don't even come close).

 I guess it's how one reads your original statement. When one compares Apple
 and Google phones I think most folks think Android phones with Google
 installed. But you are correct if you mean only Google Pixel phones. I
 guess what threw me off is that would leave out the majority of the
 non-Apple market, many with no slots. Shouldn't they have required some of
 your wrath too?

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I'm glad you clarified and I apologize for not fully understanding you.

I think we're both communicating well now, given how conversations go.
When you said 'Google', I didn't realize you had maybe meant 'Android'.

I'm reading you and posting back in an Android group...

When I think of a "Google phone", I think of the Pixel model only.
But you were apparently thinking of Google's Android OS - which is fine.

When an Android phone won't operate unless it's signed into Google it's not
 hard to think of it as a Google phone. I think many folks think that way
 and perhaps that's why I've never heard a Pixel owner refer to his phone a
 Google phone. Have you?

The beauty of Android is if you *want* the sdcard slot, you can get it.
Most Android's sold are Samsung & 75% of the Samsung models have the slot.
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Maybe that's why most Android's sold are Samsungs in the first place. :)
 

I wonder if people buy Samsungs because they don't have the strategy of
fleecing them by removing hardware so that the consumer has to buy it back?

 I bought my Samsung phone over 5 years ago and I can't remember what my
 reasons were for buying it over other brands. But I can tell you it is
 still a virgin. I've never had any need to stick anything in it's slot...

If you don't need the memory, the slot doesn't help or hurt you.
But if you need the memory, NOT having the slot hurts you a lot.

Yup. And the market has lots of phone choices for you slot needing folks.

Fundamentally, everything else being equal, a phone without the slot is
clearly a substandard phone to one that has the slot. That's pure logic.

Not so much. It depends on the need of the customer. I have an iPhone user
 in my house that's been using for decades and no slot complaints. Fact is
 I'm not sure she would even know what we're talking about.

I'm use to people making the argument that a worse phone is better.
But they don't know anything about basic logic since that makes no sense.

A phone with the slot, everything else being equal, can not only do
EVERYTHING that the phone without the slot can do, but it can do more.

Yup. It can also collect dust and crud. Same with the USB port I never use
 (wireless charging). Hopefully my next phone will be hole free.

And what it can do no phone on the planet without a slot can hope to do.
That's worth a lot when you need it; and it's worth nothing if you don't.

As I said, 5+ years with no need of the holes on my phone. I suppose some
 will bitch when the power plug leaves too. Being modern I use my phone
 wirelessly, both charging and data. But as always the market will decide...