Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC)

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

When I think of a "Google phone", I think of the Pixel model only.
But you were apparently thinking of Google's Android OS - which is fine.

 
When an Android phone won't operate unless it's signed into Google it's not
 hard to think of it as a Google phone. I think many folks think that way
 and perhaps that's why I've never heard a Pixel owner refer to his phone a
 Google phone. Have you?

Up until that statement, I thought I understood why you called an Android
phone a Google phone (even though Samsung & other brands surely exist).

But now you're claiming you have to log into Google for Android to work?
Where did you get the idea that you have to sign into Google?

Since you're a developer, you're well aware signing into Google is no more
necessary than signing into your bank account or signing into Samsung.
 

If you don't need the memory, the slot doesn't help or hurt you.
But if you need the memory, NOT having the slot hurts you a lot.

 
Yup. And the market has lots of phone choices for you slot needing folks.

My main point of contention is simply that a phone without the slot is an
inferior phone to one with the slot, all things being equal otherwise.

When people who have buyers remorse (because they bought a phone without
the slot) start justifying their lack of a slot, that's when I bring up
that logical point - because they are trying to justify their problems.

Fundamentally, everything else being equal, a phone without the slot is
clearly a substandard phone to one that has the slot. That's pure logic.

 
Not so much. It depends on the need of the customer. I have an iPhone user
 in my house that's been using for decades and no slot complaints. Fact is
 I'm not sure she would even know what we're talking about.

All I have to ask you is what a phone with a slot can't do that the phone
without the slot can do - but we already both know the answer. Nothing.

The phone without the slot is an inferior phone (assuming all else equal).

There's nothing wrong with inferior phones - but don't try to say they're
better due to buyers remorse since it's impossible for them to be better.

There are things an sdcard can do that there are no alternatives for.

I'm use to people making the argument that a worse phone is better.
But they don't know anything about basic logic since that makes no sense.

 

A phone with the slot, everything else being equal, can not only do
EVERYTHING that the phone without the slot can do, but it can do more.

 
Yup. It can also collect dust and crud. Same with the USB port I never use
 (wireless charging).

I'm sure the USB port requires repairs far more than does the sd slot.

That over 75% of Samsung phones have the industry-standard slot tells you
that the leading Android maker considers that sdslot important to people.

Hopefully my next phone will be hole free.

I'm sure that Google & Apple appreciate that everything costs you hundreds
of dollars more than it does for people who use the holes on the phone.
 
USB port (you have to pay more to compensate for its loss)
Aux jack (you have to pay more to compensate for its loss)
card slot (you have to pay more to compensate for its loss)

Notice Google & Samsung love people like you who will end up paying
something like a thousand dollars more for each phone w/o the holes.

And what it can do no phone on the planet without a slot can hope to do.
That's worth a lot when you need it; and it's worth nothing if you don't.

 
As I said, 5+ years with no need of the holes on my phone. I suppose some
 will bitch when the power plug leaves too. Being modern I use my phone
 wirelessly, both charging and data. But as always the market will decide...

The market doesn't really decide. Otherwise we'd have no laws against
companies forcing the companies to do what they have to do, by law.

There would be no lawsuits if the companies did what they're supposed to
do, especially when they reach the all-powerful status of Google & Apple.

Since Google & Apple have all-powerful status, they run roughshod over the
people, and one (small) way they do that is they take away a basic piece of
hardware so that they get hundreds of dollars per consumer in pure profits.

All things being equal, a phone without the sdslot will cost the consumer
hundreds of dollars to accomplish what that phone with the slot can do.

Google & Apple aren't stupid. They know this. It's part of their strategy.
They prey on people saying "oh, it's just a few hundred dollars" every day.