Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF?

On 4/27/24 08:23, Newyana2 wrote:

On 4/24/2024 6:55 PM, bad sector wrote:

The net is full of people having issues with phones they only thought were OFF. My android Zflip is even worse that a simple conventional design. Most times I turn it OFF/ON to be sure, there being no obvious, bulletproof, always in your face, indication which should be a prerequisite.

   Frankly I don't understand all this confusion. I have an Android
TCL Tracfone. If I press the power button it goes black but
can receive calls. I've turned off the screen. If I hold the power
button I get 3 options. One is to power off. I select that. It says
it's shutting down. I can then leave the phone in my glove
compartment for about 3 months without losing juice, and I'm
not being tracked. If I don't power down then I am tracked and
I think the battery lasts maybe 2 days. (I've only tried it once,
by accident. I never leave the power on except when making a call.)
    To turn it on again I have to hold down the power button until it
vibrates, then wait for a Win98-style boot process.
    Maybe it's different on some cellphones, or on iPhones? From the
posts here it sounds like all Androids work the same way that mine
does.

You may not understand it but the fact remains that there *is* a lot of confusion and my take on it is that the reason for the confusion is shitty design. There have been and continue occurring thousands of live mic or phone incidents EVEN with well designed idiot-proof LOW-TECH devices. Digital crap should have either a hard on/off switch that does nothing else AND an easily removable battery. My flexphone has half a dozen ways to be turned off and even when I will know them all by heart they WILL NOT suffice. Having to trust that the OS has turned the mic or itself off is not the answer; it's a bit like democracy where it isn't the right or the wrong of the issue that decides but the will of the user (illustration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S5q4bF6lac).
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